"Quick, quick, Obama! Save the world!"

[Writer]

"And make all of our dreams come true while you're at it."

:eyes:

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/11/02/one-year-after-his-election-what-has-obama-achieved/

(Give the dude a break! He's working his ass off!)

[still_one]

1. He may be working hard, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized

For one thing I cannot understand is why he appointed so many from Goldman Sacks to solve the financial crisis that they helped create?

[Buzz Clik]

3. We certainly don't spare the criticism for him here.

[still_one]

5. and that is the difference between Democrats/liberals, verses republicans/right wingers

In general, Democrats will criticize their own, while republicans won't

[phleshdef]

6. We go overboard with it which is why when they get power, they accomplish more of their agenda.

At least in recent decades.

[still_one]

9. I do not agree. We lost power because we didn't stand for our principles. The republicans

will be experiencing the same thing in 2010. Yes, I know, the common "wisdom" is that the Democrats will lose in 2010. I don't think so. Independents determine the outcome of elections, and as bad as Democrats are, the republicans are far worse, and instead of moving to the center after the 2008 election, they have moved even further to the right, and that won't cut it with the independents

[salguine]

34. No, we go overboard because when Democrats get solid majorities in both houses of Congress and

the White House, they fill countless administration positions with Goldman Sachs executives, drop everything to rescue banks while ignoring foreclosed homeowners, and hand "healthcare reform" over to lobbyists from Big Pharma and the Healthcare Industrial complex. That's why.

[phleshdef]

42. Ooooo Goldman Sachs executives... **spooky fingers**

Spare me the boogey man bullshit. Its not a fucking crime to have worked for a bank. I'm getting sick of the prejudice against someone just because they had a fucking job somewhere.

If healthcare reform was handed over to the lobbyists and the insurance industry, then why are so same people so adamantly against the bills that are moving through right now? Fucking tell me. I want a clear god damn answer or an admittance that you are full of shit.

[treestar]

44. Amen. People who work for insurance companies or any large

corporations are apparently the devil, too. Yet if they outsource some jobs, there is screaming, as if the same ones who hated their guts wanted to work for them too. Shouldn't they have been glad these "bloodsuckers" left?

:rofl:

Some people need to hate, they at least aren't right wing nutbags hating on people for their race or religion. But they find a safe haven in hating "insurance companies" or "corporations" as if the people who work for them don't count at all. And not just the guys at the time. If they got the destruction they wanted, millions of small jobs would be snuffed out.

[salguine]

49. If you want to discuss it, just say so. If you phrase it as,

"Fucking tell me. I want a clear god damn answer or an admittance that you are full of shit," I think I'll just cordially invite you to fuck yourself.

[phleshdef]

50. In other words, you aren't able to explain their opposition to something that you say is a handout..

...to them. Thats what I thought. Telling me to go fuck myself does not constitute a successful cop out on your part.

[Buzz Clik]

10. Actually, the knuckledraggers did criticize Bush.

They felt he was soft on immigration.

They felt that allowing any fetal stem cell research at all was immoral.

They hated his revamped Medicare.

Any time that Bush showed the slightest deviation from the hard-line neo-con dogma, they howled.

Sound familiar?

[still_one]

14. Yes, but not to the degree of Democrats. When reagan told republicans

that they should never criticize another republican, most of them took that directive, even to the peril of the country

[coconut22]

17. and he really,really,really,deserved it...

[treestar]

45. When they claimed that McOld did not win because he was not

conservative enough, they were batshit insane, and so are those who do the opposite.

[phleshdef]

4. The same reason the FBI hires ex-con hackers as cyber security experts.

Because the people that know whats going on from the inside understand the cause of the problems a lot better than you do.

[still_one]

7. Perhaps, but they sure aren't listening to Volker, and the like, who also understand the cause

of the problems

We will know soon enough, but I would be very surprised if we restore Glass-Steagal

[Clio the Leo]

12. You mean the Paul Volcker that the President is currently listening to ...

.... in the Roosevelt room of the West Wing? The one sitting right next to the President? THAT Paul Volcker?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/president%E2%80%99s-economic-recovery-advisory-board-meeting

(they meet again at 2pm in case you missed the morning session)

http://www.weartv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/29d2e00b-www.weartv.com.shtml

[still_one]

13. Well, he better start listening to Volcker, because Summer's was doing everthing

the last six months to exclude him

[still_one]

16. Democratic senator ‘not sure’ why Treasury Secretary Geithner still has job

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/dem-senator-not-sure-geithner-job/


"A Democratic senator took some harsh swipes at President Obama's Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner as she was being interviewed on a Monday morning news show.

Huffington Post's Rachel Weiner notes, "Appearing on MSNBC's Morning Meeting with Dylan Ratigan, Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) said that Geithner's plans left banks the same loopholes and encouraged the same risks that led to last year's economic meltdown."

"Knowing two massive exemptions in the piece of legislation the Secretary endorsed yesterday on 'Meet the Press' ... why does Tim Geithner still have a job?" Ratigan asked.

Cantwell shot back,

I'm not sure because David Gregory had him almost -- trying to get a straight answer out of him. What the Treasury Secretary basically said was, yes, banks should take more risks and we should continue the loopholes and that is really appalling because, right now, we know that lack of transparency has caused this problem with the U.S. economy and Wall Street is continuing, one year later, continuing the same kind of loopholes. And so if the Treasury Secretary doesn't come down hard against these loopholes and advocate for closing them, then we're going to have a tough time closing them in Congress. So the Treasury Secretary is dodging the issue."

[HopeOverFear]

11. HOT DAMN! What an answer

Wish I could rec it lol

[jonnyblitz]

24. what a steaming pile of HORSESHIT.!!!

holy FUCK!. :crazy:

[phleshdef]

41. My answer is 100% accurate. Refute it or shut it.

[Odin2005]

25. +1,000,000

[uponit7771]

26. The reason why FDR did the same

[AndyA]

8. That bothers me as well.

And it seems every day there's a new Goldman Sachs connection to a problem. Obama hired an alcoholic to guard the liquor cabinet. Not a good move, IMO.

Now we have banks raising credit card interest rates, not loaning money to people or small business, and closing people's accounts. How does that help the economy recover?

[Fire1]

22. The economy cannot recover without jobs. n/t

[wuvuj]

31. The GREAT COMPRIMISER?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/leadership-obama-style_b_342269.html


Genuine leadership means setting the agenda. It means taking tough stands. It means telling people the truth forcefully and evocatively in a way that makes them want to listen and act. It means drawing lines in the sand when you must, and refusing to compromise your values even if you have to compromise on some of the policies born of those values when you have no other choice. It means fighting for what you believe in and taking on powerful vested interests when people's lives and livelihoods are at stake. And it means looking backward at the past so you don't make the same mistakes, looking sideways at alternatives so you know your options, and using that vision to move the nation forward.

Leadership is a quality Barack Obama showed on the campaign trail. It is a quality he has failed to show as president.

[vaberella]

2. I wonder who unrec'd you. Whatever....I agree with you. K//R. n/t

[earth mom]

15. Yeah Obama is working his ass off-for Corporate America & the rich elite.

:thumbsdown:

[Cha]

21. Your post has no basis in

fact.

[uponit7771]

27. ...and...and Obama was born in Kenya too.....(don't forget that one in your post)

[earth mom]

43. Truth hurts, eh, so you have to resort to bullshit. nt

[treestar]

46. To make this post requires:

:tinfoilhat:

[coconut22]

18. This is the first time I have ever heard ...

all of these threats about how he won't get their votes when his term isn't even over yet. They don't know what will happen in the next three years..


One thing I can say is that if you split the vote you are getting anywhere and if you vote Republicon I be sitting on my hands laughing at all of the crying when the CONS finish your asses off. A lot of these people are freepers and some are just full of shit!!!

[styersc]

19. If he gets a spine, the problems will take care of themselves.

Hillary 2012

[Cha]

23. "'HIllary 2012"? What shit are you smoking?

[uponit7771]

28. You most likely are sore because it wasn't Hillary 2008, lets move on

[ZombieHorde]

20. Unrec for using a logical fallacy in your OP.

The logical fallacy you used is called straw man.

[uponit7771]

29. If you read the article it was NOT a straw man. The CSM, like some DU'ers, have some UNREASONABLE...

...expectations.

[ZombieHorde]

35. I did read the article and the OP misrepresents what the article is saying. nt

[uponit7771]

37. The supposition in the articles TITLE is falacious enough, Obama took office in Jan not a year

...ago when he was elected so the article doesn't give Obama a years worth of accomplishments either.

[ZombieHorde]

38. The OP claims the article claims Obama should save the world quickly and

make all of our dreams come true while he's at it. The article does not make these claims.

This is a good example of a straw man, and straw men are logical fallacies, and logical fallacies are usually contrary to critical thinking.

[uponit7771]

39. I was looking at the OP title as sarcastic hyperbole not a strawman cause there's no realistic truth

...to a man saving the world quickly etc.

I did read the article again and it does come off a little more fairer than first positioned, it's just the "year" thing is a RW basic talking point.

[ZombieHorde]

40. The title of the article claims Obama was elected one year ago,

and the article was written Nov. 2, this means the article is only two days off from the 'elected one year ago' claim. The body of the article claims Obama was elected almost one year ago, which is more accurate.

I believe the article would have been better if the article used the inauguration date, as opposed to the election date, since Obama was not really President until the latter half of January.

[polmaven]

30. And do it NOW!!!!!!!

I want it NOW!!!!!!!!!

[paparush]

32. Wait...Wait..you mean we're NOT getting ponies???

[ChicagoSuz219]

33. Dang! I really wanted one, too... :-(

I wish everyone would cut the Prezzie some slack... he's dancing as fast as he can!!

[paparush]

36. I agree. Bush / Cheney didn't leave us in a ditch, they left us in a grave.

I feel that Prez Obama is doing his best.

[ChicagoSuz219]

47. Just once, I'd like to come onto one of these boards...

...and hear someone give a constructive idea as to how to make things better. He's just one guy... he needs all of us to step up and help him get things done.
Thanks, paparush!

[styersc]

48. If the GOP wanted us to have ponies, Obama would make it so!!!

If a progressive suggests that we have ponies, Obama's answer is, "Chuck U. Farley".