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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:33 PM
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Obama faces defeat in election test
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-faces-defeat-in-election-test-1813640.html

Republican victory expected at gubernatorial and congressional polls

By David Usborne, US Editor

Tuesday, 3 November 2009

Barack Obama faces a likely political bruising today as Virginia votes for a new governor in an election that the Republican candidate looks set to win. The contest takes place exactly one year after the state broke with decades of tradition by helping to put a Democrat
in the White House.

In what is otherwise a quiet year electorally, the results from Virginia this evening will inevitably be pored over for signs that the coalition built by the Obama campaign in 2008, which included many independents and first-time voters, is eroding. All eyes will also be on another race for governor in New Jersey and an unexpectedly eventful congressional contest in northern New York that has exposed ominous fissures in the Republican ranks.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:34 PM
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1. Yeah, right.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:43 PM
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2. right it's Obama's fault. Governors all over the country are in trouble because of the economy
and state issues. Dems have controlled the VA governorship for several years now and voters want a change. It's normal. Also our nominee for governor ran a horrid campaign. I'll tell you this though, if the Dem nominee in VA somehow gets within five points of winning I will consider that a win for the Dems. The results in VA have little to do with Obama. If he were on ballot AA voters would be enthused and turn out in record numbers (again) which would make the state competitive.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:47 PM
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3. Silly
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 01:41 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
Obama isn't on the ballot anywhere. Why does the corporate media assume that just because HE inspired and brought enough people together enough people to win Virginia last year during a major Presidential election that ANY Democrat should be able to ride his coattails a year later and win the Governorship? :shrug:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:47 PM
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4. Since 1974 Va, always votes opposite of the Party heading up DC.. repub or dem..
So Va, if it does go to Deeds.. now that will be the precedent breaker..
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:37 PM
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5. Defeat? Really?
Tomorrow he'll still be President, the Dems will still be in control of both chambers of congress by healthy margins only dreamed of by the pukes. I'll take that defeat any time.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:46 PM
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17. Hoping to see those favorable conditions lead to concrete legislation soon.
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ind_thinker2 Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:40 PM
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6. Oh! he is defeated with 54% approval rating.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:45 PM
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7. Thanks for bringing us the RW media meme of the day. Still bitter, eh? nt
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 01:59 PM by ClarkUSA
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:47 PM
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8. I Wish I could unrec this more than once
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:21 PM
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10. I'll throw in an unrec to help out! NT
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:44 PM
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16. +1
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:37 PM
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28. I did it for you.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:18 PM
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9. I'm in NJ.
Furthermore, Corzine is my neighbor. He will probably win by a small margin. Not because he has been a particularly good governor, but the Democratic political machinery in NJ is well oiled and he spent millions out of his own money.

My prediction is that it will be 3 to 1 Republican wins: VA, upstate NY and NYC for the Repugs and NJ for the Dems.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:34 PM
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12. Bloomberg is an Independent I don't think that counts as a GOP win
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:57 PM
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20. It asbolutely does not.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:20 PM
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25. Bloomberg changes parties like most people change underwear.
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 10:25 PM by Beacool
He has ran as an Independent, Republican and a Democrat. This time around he's running as a Republican.

Ouch, FOX just called the race for Christie. Damn!!!

:(
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:31 PM
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11. Usborne must be really dizzy
All that spinning... I'm noticing the same thing from all the rethugs that have been showing up on MSNBC today.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:35 PM
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13. Actually, Obama has above a 55% approval rating in NJ and about a 54% one in VA.
This is about local issues, like property taxes in NJ. Obama has to do with property taxes?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:37 PM
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14. What's that thing that Tip O'Neill said?
Oh yea... ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL. The Virginia Governor's race is about the Virginia Governor's race. It's not a referendum on the President of the United States.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:41 PM
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15. Yeah, epic FAIL..rw & corporatemediaWHores talking
points.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:49 PM
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18. Obama is not on the ballot, and local issues are driving the elections
Just watch V on ABC tonight and avoid the cable channels. You will feel happier!
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:55 PM
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19. Bush lost both Virginia and NJ governorships in 2001
Yet he was able to get most of his agenda through congress after that.

I don't see why Obama will be in any trouble by loss of governorships in 2009.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:58 PM
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21. oh don't forget him not getting Chicago the Olympics
his presidency is doomed because of those factors.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:59 PM
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22. Wow, I didn't realize Obama was running for office again.
:eyes:

Transparent.
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Dr Robert Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 04:01 PM
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23. thanks for letting us know how the Repukes think
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:05 PM
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24. Utterly laughable... who the hell wrote this?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:22 PM
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26. "Hi, I was calling the Piece-Of-Shit Headline Department . . . Is this it?"
:eyes:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 PM
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27. lol - that's garbage
I'll hide this thread - don't need to see this garbage.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:40 PM
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29. If Owens wins NY-23, then the Dems won 2 out of 4 major races today.
No one talks about the Special Election in CA but I think we will win that. So it would be an even match. No one wins or loses, just two bad Dem, candidates and if things hold up in NY, Sarah Palin (LOL!).
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:00 AM
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30. Some of the races seemed clear that Republicans were going to win and well i just dont
think having Obama stump would have helped much because some of these democrats were lousy choices. Here's hoping though that Obama takes the left more seriously and not pander to the right and their corporate owners so much any more....inspire his base to continue to support him (by even coming out to vote for even these weak democrats) by showing actions for positive, dramatic change. For me, if it wasnt for the ongoing Geitner/WH bank scam i would have held my nose and gone out to vote for the democrat instead of staying home.
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