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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 05:55 PM
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Good God! Obama's only been in office 10 MONTHS!
The media is out of control. And many are parroting the media. I'm starting to regard the media as entertainment and entertainment only. This isn't even opinion journalism. It's tabloid entertainment. There is little substance beyond people complaining about nothing!

Did everyone really expect that healthcare would get passed in one week? How about bringing the troops home in one month? Or closing Abu-Graib in a day? What of ending don't ask don't tell? 10 months! And the media is asking you to believe one of two things. He's either too slow... or he's moving too fast. Which is it?

Did folks forget that there is a constitution and that he explained that he would follow the constitution. Congress was supposed to lead on Healthcare. He is supposed to differ to the other branches of government. His job is to sign it into law.

Again!

He's moving too fast!
He's not moving fast enough!
Shouldn't he slow down!
He's dithering!
Shouldn't he put more troops in quickly!
He should take his time and assess the situation on the ground!

Pull! Tug! Lead!

Too much exposure!

"He should come out forcefully for a public option!"

And so he gives a speech to the joined branches of congress and states clearly what he wants to the tune of "you lie" and the media is still explaining that he isn't clear enough and they spend an entire week pimping Wilson to the national electorate. WTF!

And to boot - the media has been wrong about damn near EVERYTHING! They've been on the wrong side of coverage even when they say they're covering news! Sanchez of CNN (Huh) wanted to bulldoze Fox for explaining that he did not cover the tea bag protest! ARE YOU SHITTIN' ME?! He gave that noise machine a dissertation on Fox's own promoted event? He looked real smart there didn't he?

And... Cost containment is more important than the health of all Americans...? The media is an arm of the political discourse in this country and the rest of the world is laughing at us. They are looking at us and wondering what is going on in this country. HOW CAN COST CONTAINMENT WITHIN HEALTH CARE BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE ITSELF? EXCUSE ME! And the media just laps up every freaking talking point the GOP lays out there.

The entire media from coast to coast on every channel has become Fox Noise! Stop following Fox down the rabbit hole. The grenade is going to go off sooner of later and news will lose the shred of legitimacy it has. This endless drum beat of negative vomit is not news. It's just vomit and I think people should stop parroting the negativity.

DU should hold a moratorium one day a week on the gossip of the day and call for the promotion of the positive accomplishments of the last 10 months.

Do we really want to go back to 8 years before? Remember that? The media wants the Hoffmans and the Becks and Limbaughs to rise up once again. We only help them by promoting their stories. Stop it! Depress this noise by reporting Democratic accomplishments. The president in 10 months has done more than any president in my memory. President Obama is not perfect. He doesn't walk on water. We must push him to be the kind of president we elected. Write him and tell him not to keep feeding Afghanistan! Tell him to stop caving to his advisors. This is more constructive than being a megaphone for the negative dumbasses rotating the network dials.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 05:57 PM
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1. ...and my problems aren't solved.
:(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:34 PM
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:22 PM
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12. Like he said, he's just getting started figuring out how things work in Washington.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:49 PM
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19. I was just joking around
I think he's doing a great job considering what he's up against and I certainly never expected things to be fixed or even back to normal after only 10 months. GOBAMA!!!! :thumbsup:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 05:57 PM
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2. The media is in control
They know exactly what they are doing. They are destroying a Presidency. He moves quickly, the attack for being too fast.

If he isn't taking action then he is moving too slow. You get the picture.

They are controlling the message and doing what ever it takes to make Obama ineffective.
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Dr Robert Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:00 PM
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3. That's why they hate it when he goes around them and speaks directly to the People
They absolutely cannot stand it.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:27 PM
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18. I will never forget when he announced his press conference on TWITTER
not on cable news...on TWITTER...

my local news anchor was NOT HAPPY. Oh man...when she reported what the WH did she sounded so offended and salty it was hilarious to watch...her tone was like "how dare he?" It was great :rofl:
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:03 PM
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20. You said it.
And if they succeed in destroying Obama, this country is done for. I really don't think we'd survive another right-wing administration.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:01 PM
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4. May I remind you that Obama is opposed to restoring the Fairness Doctrine
so your outrage about the media, while justified, is also misplaced.

Media concentration is another issue at play here.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:09 PM
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6. Get the full story here...
considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible. That is why Sen. Obama supports media-ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/03/the-fairness-doctrine/

Why support the old ways when the new ways are so much better?

:shrug:
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:23 PM
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13. thank good.
freedom of press is as important as freedom of speech. I wouldn't support a fairness of speech doctrine either.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:04 PM
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21. Maybe he'll reconsider that opinion,
in light of recent events.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:04 PM
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:31 PM
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7. Well said. You should send this OP to every news talking head you can find. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:55 PM
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9. Life is so much better without corporatemediawhores in
my life and I dropped them in Nov 2002..7 years.

TYT~Cenk is leading a March on cnn corporate offices on November 5, 2009!

<snip>

We're going to CNN headquarters in NY, LA and Atlanta on Thursday, Nov. 5, 2009 at 12pm local time* to show that there are people willing to stand up for the public option (Why CNN? See Cenk's blog at the bottom of this post). Votes are coming up in the Senate and the House and the fate of healthcare reform hangs in the balance right now. If you want the public option, this is the time to fight! Here is the link to the Facebook Events where you can see who else is coming and coordinate in your area.

And here are the addresses of the three locations (*Note: 12pm local time is 12pm PST in LA and 12pm EST in ATL and NY):

CNN Los Angeles (Cenk, Ana and the rest of the Turks will be there!)
6430 W Sunset Blvd Ste 300
Los Angeles, CA 90028

CNN Atlanta
190 Marietta St, NW
Atlanta, GA 30303

CNN New York
10 Columbus Circle
New York, NY 10019

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x397949

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:57 PM
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10. That's why I don't watch them. I'm all the less stressed for it, too. n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:17 PM
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11. DU is no different than the media then
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:37 PM
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15. Have to agree with you there
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:32 PM
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14. The media is so 'populist centered' that they are running with the "messiah" angle
Since he is the messiah, expectations are higher than for any other President in history.

A third grader could write the playbook for the media these days. Isn't it strange how adding more choices actually reduced the quality of the so-called "news".
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:43 PM
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16. Your OP is not very fair. Those opinions you listed come from different people.
One person may believe Pres. Obama is taking on too much, another person may believe Pres. Obama is doing too little, and yet another person may believe Pres. Obama is taking on the correct amount of subjects.

Congress was supposed to lead on Healthcare.

Pres. Obama is the leader of the Democratic party and he is supposed to lead the party on health care reform, and in my opinion, he has been leading on health care reform.

How about bringing the troops home in one month?

I believe he promised we would be out of Iraq in a year and a half. He still has eight to nine months to go.

Or closing Abu-Graib in a day?

He said he would do this in one year. He has two months to three months.

He's either too slow... or he's moving too fast. Which is it?

Are you not adding to this? You seem to be claiming Pres. Obama is moving at a reasonable pace. Which is it? Depends on the observer, or is that just my observation?

Did everyone really expect that healthcare would get passed in one week?

Is this a real complaint, or are you exaggerating an opposing view in order to knock it over more easily (aka: straw man)?

Do we really want to go back to 8 years before?

Are "we" making this claim, or are you inventing an argument to knock down?

the rest of the world is laughing at us. They are looking at us and wondering what is going on in this country.

The rest of the world is not just laughing, some of them even flew airplanes into some of our buildings.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:37 AM
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25. my post was explaining what you point out... many people have opinions
however in my opinion people should chill out a bit. He has only been in office 10 months. There has been no terror attack on his watch. He is trying to get healthcare done, the markets stable and people shouldn't expect that he can do all of this in a year.

The lengths of times I chose were arbitrary. I pulled them out of a hat. The expectation game is promoted by media. No president has done as much as he's done in ten months. President Obama has created a very high benchmark for the next president... in 2016.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:45 PM
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17. the "only x months" argument is a straw man.
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 08:00 PM by branders seine
Criticism of Obama is about what he HAS done or has FAILED to do, not with the absence of a perfect outcome to-date. If (or more likely when) health care reform fails, are critics supposed to then wait another year or two (or whatever your personal calendar is) before they are allowed to comment?


Life--and Obama's Presidency--are happening in real time. Events don't wait until he's been in office for a year or two or three before they happen. He is President, full-on, no excuses, and fully accountable for his action (or inaction) from minute one.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:47 PM
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22. It is about direction, not time
But you and your posse go ahead. Rail against that strawman.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:52 PM
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23. Fuck the media. :) I stopped watching them after Obama was elected.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:04 PM
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24. The media bases its assumptions on false premises
"He's moving too fast!
He's not moving fast enough!
Shouldn't he slow down!
He's dithering!
Shouldn't he put more troops in quickly!
He should take his time and assess the situation on the ground!"

Wouldn't that share of the blame go to Congress?

Or is Obama suddenly king, and can make laws now by snapping his fingers? People are just used to the Bush years where Congress was full of a bunch of Republican lemmings who kissed the floor when Cheney walked by. "Thank you master, want a coffee?"

The truth is, the "Tea Party" movement does not understand our government, and how Obama can do none of the things they blame him for doing. These "Constitution purists" are too stupid to realize that Obama is limited by the Constitution, and Congress is who their beef is with. The irony is thick.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:41 AM
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26. They're losing the little credibility they have because of their insular group think
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