NY-23 Results Coming In

[Adelante]

Very early: .03% reporting

Owens 56.9

Hoffman 38.5

Scozzafava 4.6


http://www.politico.com/

[Kdillard]

1. Come on Owens.

[fujiyama]

2. Haha, I'd love those numbers

If only there was more than 0% of the precincts in!

[KingFlorez]

3. I'm really hoping we win this one

The far-right needs to be smacked in the face.

[RagAss]

4. .03% ??? Must be the votes from Al's Diner !

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. LOL

[Cha]

6. Thanks, Adelante.

[Adelante]

8. You're welcome

:)

[budkin]

7. ACORN's gonna bring that shit home! LMAO!

[GrantDem]

20. LMAO

[Adelante]

9. 1% reporting - Owens +6

Owens 50.8

Hoffman 45.3

Scozzafava 3.9

[Clio the Leo]

10. The voters are clearly showing their support for Joe Biden....

..... and his impecable delivery of the "It's not that simple SARAH!" line. ha ha ha, so funny

[w4rma]

11. Go, go ACORN! lol. (nt)

[Adelante]

12. 8.1% reporting - Owens +11

Owens 53.4

Hoffman 42.4

Scozzafava 4.2


http://www.politico.com /

[Adelante]

13. 20% reporting - Owens +8

Owens 51.5

Hoffman 43.2

Scozzafava 5.3


http://www.politico.com /

[Cha]

15. Scarey...

Who knows!?

[michaz]

14. I am in St. Lawrence County. Numbers are starting to come in for us

and so far Owens has a little under 700 lead! I am holding my breath! We had some trouble here in the county earlier with Hoffman supporters chanting at people going in to the polls. They had Hoffman stickers all over them and they were going on about Pro-Life. Police were called but I don't have all the particulars about it as yet nor do I know what town they were in.

[Jennicut]

17. I was waiting to hear if we would get those results tonight. Some were not saying

until tomorrow. Good news so far.

[WePurrsevere]

18. They were in Gouverneur from what I've heard.

Where are you getting St, Lawrence County numbers? That's where we are... up near the seaway. :)

[michaz]

21. northcountrynow.com is showing the results as they come in. I am in

Ogdensburg. Not far from you. Let's hope it lasts.

[WePurrsevere]

28. Thank you.. I didn't think to check there.

Hopefully it will last. I'll never understand people who will vote against their own best interest.

[HughMoran]

16. Owens +7 @ 23% in

Seems like Owens support came in early

[HughMoran]

19. 6% with 27% reporting

it's slipping away....

[dave29]

23. back to 7%

with 29% in

[HughMoran]

24. 7% with 31% in

wish I knew if this means anything...

[HughMoran]

27. Still +7% with 34% in

:shrug:

[NYC_SKP]

22. TPMDC: Voting Machine Breakdowns May Delay Results In NY-23

TPMDC:

Voting Machine Breakdowns May Delay Results In NY-23

Voting machine malfunctions may delay election results from four towns in New York's 23rd district, reports the Johnson News Service.

The breakdowns, in Louisville, Waddington, Rossie and Clare, happened earlier today on new voting machines, according to the St. Lawrence County Board of Elections deputy commissioner.

And in Fulton County, results won't be posted online and likely won't be available to the media until tomorrow.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/voting-machine-breakdowns-may-delay-results-in-ny-23.php

:nuke:

[ej510]

25. Man that looks suspicious.

[NYC_SKP]

32. The word, "moth**f***ers" comes to mind... Will the country ever figure out to NOT have machines???

:nuke:

[Robbins]

26. NY-23

If Owens pulls this off It will dapen the Republican and MSM memo.Hoffman was quoted as saying
Democrats were trying to steal the Election.When Conservatives and Republicans say that they are
losing.Remember the wisdom was Hoffman was suspose to run away with It.

[WePurrsevere]

35. FWIW.. we're close to Waddington. The machines we used

are probably the same as there. They're new machines that use a large (legal size) paper ballot that you will out and is scanned in. It's very fussy and will spit back out a ballot if the boxes aren't filled in all the way. If the scanning machines break down the ballots can still be counted.. they'll just have to be counted by hand.

[NYC_SKP]

59. Thanks, good to know there's a paper back-up. n/t

[Kdillard]

29. Getting tighter Owens only leading by 4 percent with 38 % counted.

Staying steady with 48% counted.

[Adelante]

31. Yeah, this is getting to stomach-turning time nt

[mvd]

30. Come on, Owens!

Pull it out! Tired of the M$M narrative.

[HughMoran]

33. Darn, down to +3% with 54% reporting

At this rate, Owens isn't going to make it.

[Kdillard]

34. Ugh. That is all I can say about this night.

[Kdillard]

36. Owens moved back up to + 4 with 62% reporting.

[HughMoran]

37. hmmm

This one might be close to the end - I don't know the areas reporting or what it means though

[Jennicut]

41. Go here

http://northcountrynow.com/ad_pages/results.htm

23rd Congressional Race Results

Unofficial tallies provided by Boards of Election and compiled by NorthCountryNow.com



Owens Hoffman Scozzafava % of Precincts reporting

Clinton County 9542 6744 631 88%



Essex County



Franklin County 4009 3546 211 77%



Fulton County



Hamilton County



Jefferson County 7345 6985 958 76%



Lewis County



Madison County 5976 6357 1000 73%



Oneida County 1277 1798 207 61%



Oswego County 5706 6755 661 52%



St. Lawrence County 1717 1060 115 13%



Totals 35572 33,245 3783

[HughMoran]

47. Yes, I'm looking there

I can kinda get an idea of counties based on results in from each so far.

Up by 3500 votes now - all counties but 3 going Owens way.

[dave29]

39. woot!

:)

[KingFlorez]

40. Hopefully it holds

Can't breath a sigh of relief yet, but it's still hopeful.

[michaz]

38. 10,226 absentee ballots out. They are saying that if no one wins by

between 8000-9000 vote difference, we could be wondering for a while. Ughhh

[HughMoran]

42. crap

The difference won't be that big best I can tell...

[Clio the Leo]

46. That's what I've been afraid of.........

..... we may have to send Hillary in to convince Hoffman to bow out. :evilgrin:

[tsuki]

50. It has also been posted that many of those absentee ballots could go

to Dede Scozzafava.

[michaz]

58. Exactly. They were out before she withdrew

[michaz]

43. St. Lawrence County is still only reporting at 13%. All the other counties are much higher. n/t

[Jennicut]

45. It is where Dede Scozzafaza lives. Interesting to see what the tallies will be there.

[Clio the Leo]

48. Have you seen this?

With (apparently) 42% precints reporting in St. Law county, Owens is ahead...

http://www.co.st-lawrence.ny.us/Board_of_Elections/General-09/racelist.htm

[michaz]

65. Thanks n/t

[Cha]

49. Wonder where Bill Owens lives? I hear hoffman

doesn't even live in the District.

[budkin]

44. Are the numbers now looking good for Owens?

Up 4 with 62% counted?

[HughMoran]

52. I don't think we know

Is there an expert on this district in the house?

[Kdillard]

56. Yes. He is still maintaining the lead with 64 % counted.

[Jennicut]

51. Wow! St. Lawrence County is up for Owens 5441 to 4019 with 41% reporting!

23rd Congressional Race Results

Unofficial tallies provided by Boards of Election and compiled by NorthCountryNow.com



Owens Hoffman Scozzafava % of Precincts reporting

Clinton County 10481 7486 685 98%



Essex County



Franklin County 4009 3546 211 77%



Fulton County



Hamilton County



Jefferson County 9347 8691 1124 91%



Lewis County



Madison County 5976 6357 1000 73%



Oneida County 1277 1798 207 61%



Oswego County 5706 6755 661 52%



St. Lawrence County 5441 4019 477 41%



Totals 43022 39,547 4,468

[HughMoran]

I was wondering about that one

What does that mean?

[mvd]

55. Of all the races, an Owens win would be most telling

Thanks for the updates!

[Clio the Leo]

60. But it will suddenly become the least reported....

.... a Dem winning a House district no matter the circumstances just doesn't make as good of a story as "The Democrats lost two Governors Houses and the Largest City in the Country" does.

[Adelante]

66. The Dems should have backed Bloomie

That would have driven the GOP insane :evilgrin:

[michaz]

53. And here comes St. Lawrence Cty. Now at 41% and Owens leading

by 1,422. Not bad for this county

[HughMoran]

54. So that's a conservative district?

?

[michaz]

57. Well, let's say it is more likely Republican. n/t

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

62. This is a test for the Republican Party. They should have run away with this district.

Instead, they are fighting to keep pace with a Democrat in a decidedly conservative district! That's amazing. Even if they win, the fact that they are a fractured party says so much about their direction. Do they want Sarah Palin to lead their fight? Or, do they want a more pragmatic, mainstream Republican to be their leader? We'll see Hoffman is not a Repuke. He's a Sarah Palin sycophant. We'll see what happens.

[Muttocracy]

64. The Conservative + Republican numbers are > Democrats so far

so yeah, they could have had this if they had gone for the type of Republican that can win in upstate NY

[Clio the Leo]

67. Exactly, I was about to say, a test for the meddling ways of that Palin Woman. NT

[WePurrsevere]

63. If you look at the blue/red/purple map..

St. Lawrence is basically purple.

For specifics all I can speak to is my own experience and the majority of Republicans I've met up here are what I would call "Ike" types and fairly moderate. There's also a decent Dem population partially thanks to the colleges we have up here.

[Adelante]

96. Is the reported machine problem cleared up now in St. Lawrence?

If you know.

[Muttocracy]

61. With 67% reporting, Owens (D) 49.1%, Hoffman (C) 45.5%

from http://elections.nytimes.com/2009/results/other.html

and here's the district map:

[HughMoran]

68. slightly better @ 69% reporting

...

[HughMoran]

69. 49.1 - 45.2 @ 71% in

still holding at ~ 4% for Owens

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

70. Whoa! What is the make-up of the remaining precincts? n/t

[WePurrsevere]

82. Here's a snip of NY's election results last year...

If you compare this to the above map perhaps it will help.

ETA: FWIW Hamilton is the fairly solid red in the upper middle and they're an area that hasn't come in yet. St, Lawrence where I am is the deeper purple at the top.

[Muttocracy]

89. I think it's looking good because the reddest blob is very low population size

if I'm lining that up right in my head (it's a chunk of Adirondack Park mostly). Most of the remaining votes will be Essex and Lewis County.

[WePurrsevere]

92. I believe you're right..

Actually I think it's all Adirondack Park down there. It's a lot of woods and not many houses/camps down there.

[PopSixSquish]

71. With 71% Reporting

Bill Owens Dem. 50,712 49.1%
Doug Hoffman Con. 46,746 45.2


Seems to be hovering around 4% difference...

What about the absentee ballots?

[Adelante]

72. He's holding those 4 points steady for a while now nt

[Zynx]

73. Those would break more to the candidate who dropped out.

She had been much stronger earlier in the race.

[PopSixSquish]

74. So When Will They Call This One?

and be prepared for Hoffman to scream bloody murder...

[creeksneakers2]

75. NY-23: Watertown Mayor: ‘It’s Over’

By David Weigel 11/3/09 10:50 PM
SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. – I caught Watertown, N.Y., Mayor Jeff Graham, who endorsed NY-23 Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman this weekend, looking very glum at Hoffman’s election party. I asked him what happened in Jefferson County, where Watertown is located, and where Democrat Bill Owens is leading the vote.

“We lost,” said Graham. “The Scozzafava endorsement, the endorsement of Owens–I mean, they roughed Hoffman up.”

Could Hoffman still pull out a win? Graham grimaced. “It’s over.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/66474/ny-23-watertown-mayor-its-over

[Jennicut]

76. I read that there is now pessimism at the Hoffman HQ as well.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

[DrToast]

84. thealbanyproject.com also calls it for Owens

Dunno the site, but they were linked on the front page of DailyKos. They basically say it's over.

http://www.thealbanyproject.com/diary/7518/ny23-im-calling-it-for-owens

[Jennicut]

119. Thanks!

[Adelante]

81. Good news!

I hope it holds up :woohoo:

[mvd]

85. Woohooo!

:bounce:

[Adelante]

86. "they roughed Hoffman up.”

That's hilarious. Look at what those miserable wing nut bastards did to her!

[saltpoint]

77. How fun it would be if the 4 or 5 percent Scozzafava winds up with is

the difference in the amount Hoffman loses to Owens by.

It would be interesting to hook into a live blog from the Hoffman HQ site to see if people are still confident, or looking anxious, or drunk as skunks and draped over the chairs.

[PopSixSquish]

80. You Might Be Right - She's Holding at 5%

and if the absentees break for her...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

90. There's another way to look at this: I'd rather have Scozzafava if she's progressive on

social and some economic issues than to have another Blue Dog Democrat who is not. It's not worth Owens winning the seat is he's not going to be marginally more progressive than she.

[Clio the Leo]

93. which is the same rational the tea-baggers use. NT

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

98. The difference between me and the teabaggers is that I actually care about policymaking.

Please do not compare me to that scum.

[Clio the Leo]

101. I'm apologize but.........

..... wishing a Republican would win over ANY Democrat isn't going to get us anywhere.

It's not working so far in NY-23 and it wont work for the Democratic party. ;)

[michaz]

78. Check this out

www.newzjunky.com

[Cha]

83. Thanks..I'm not

getting my hopes up..gonna use reverse psychology.

[Thrill]

79. What does that tell you about the people in that district? Voting for a guy

who didn't even know the issues that concerned the area. Sad country

[depakid]

102. +1

[WePurrsevere]

130. It shows that the majority of voters up here...

many of whom work for dairy farms, know bullshit even when it has legs. ;)

Yes, it's sad that there were so many that voted for Hoffman but IMO the fact that this area elected the first Dem in decades says a lot more about this area then one might think. It shows that the trend I've noticed may be accurate and this area is growing less conservative, less straight party Republican and more left... this is a very good thing and hopefully will continue. :)

[PopSixSquish]

87. 74% Reporting

Bill Owens 53,562 49.1%
Doug Hoffman 49,661 45.5%
Dede Scozzafava 5,949 5.4%

Add Hoffman and Scozzafava's numbers together and see what happens... :evilgrin:

[Clio the Leo]

88. Everyone open up this live chat in another window.....

http://www.wwnytv.com/news/stream3

.... from someone at Owens headquarters

Thanks to michaz for helping me find this!

[michaz]

91. No thanks necessary. We are all in this together. n/t

[Clio the Leo]

94. I now have video from the Owens headquarters working...

.... I'm patiently waiting (Hoping! Praying!) to see all the little Owens supporters jump up and down with glee when the time comes!

[Cha]

97. Keep us posted!

:bounce::patriot:

[Clio the Leo]

99. video here....

http://www.wwnytv.com/news/stream3

[Jennicut]

95. More results from the counties:

23rd Congressional Race Results

Unofficial tallies provided by Boards of Election and compiled by NorthCountryNow.com



Owens Hoffman Scozzafava % of Precincts reporting

Clinton County 10536 7530 686 100%



Essex County



Franklin County 4334 3811 224 86%



Fulton County



Hamilton County



Jefferson County 9851 9122 1147 97%



Lewis County



Madison County 7636 7964 1122 93%



Oneida County 1720 2349 282 83%



Oswego County 6835 7823 1130 60%



St. Lawrence County 6398 4671 515 49%



Totals 48572 44647 45289


Owens still ahead in St. Lawrence County.

[Adelante]

100. What about the machines in St. Lawrence?

I'm not sure we can count on that number or can we?

[Muttocracy]

103. I doubt it was machines all over St. Lawrence County

Maybe just a few polling places had trouble so only 1/2 results in so far?

[michaz]

104. Not sure what is going on with this percentage. I understood any of the

machine problems were taken care of fairly quickly.

[Adelante]

105. Thank you

I'm getting myself all nerved up :scared:

[WePurrsevere]

123. FWIW... The 4 precincts that had issues...

with the machines are very small towns (3 have less then a 1,000 population, the other is under 3.2k). I live in a small town that's just a tiny bigger then the biggest 4 with issues and there were 3 machines there.

[creeksneakers2]

112. 2008 scores

Essex: Obama 56.2 McCain 42.4 16K votes total
Fulton:Obama 43.5 McCain 54.9 20K votes
Hamilton: Obama 35.5 McCain 63.7 3K votes
Lewis: Obama 45.3 McCain 53.6 10K votes
St. Lawrence: Obama 56.8 McCain 41.9 37K votes

[Muttocracy]

115. thank you! I don't things are going to change that much from here on

might tighten up but I think it's still looking good.

[ChiciB1]

106. MSNBC Saying 11,000 Absentee Votes Won't Be Counted Until Tomorrow!

Just tuned in and haven't watched anything, but this is what they're saying. No call as yet from them. Also, this district will be re-districted in 2010 and will probably be a Democratic District then.

[Muttocracy]

109. yeah, we HAVE to keep the state senate Dem through redistricting. nt

[Muttocracy]

110. I'm betting those absentees are from Fort Drum - mailed before she dropped out? nt

[Clio the Leo]

111. while I'm ultimately clueless.....

... I would TEND to think absantee ballots would only HELP Owens because, before Dede dropped out he was the odds on favorite because she and Hoffman were splitting the right's votes.

But like I said, what do I know?

[Muttocracy]

113. yes, and Hoffman would need a huge % of the absentees to win. nt

[ChiciB1]

114. I Don't Have A Clue Either... I Haven't Even Been Watching Tonight...

O'Donnell said that there was ANOTHER Democrat in the State Senate who was an even better candidate than Owens, but they needed him to stay there.

Anyway, just repeating what O'Donnell said and Rachel said he had been spending a lot of time in the district. I didn't hear him say anything regarding what the break would be with the 11,000. I live in FL, so I KNOW NOTHING!

[Muttocracy]

116. Fort Drum (Army base) is in the district - do soldiers vote by base or "home" district? nt

[Clio the Leo]

107. Owens expected at his headquarters soon! NT

[HughMoran]

108. Nice, back to 3.7% lead with 85% in

Maybe Owens is going to pull this one out!

[Jennicut]

117. St. Lawrence County now at 55% with Owens still leading there

23rd Congressional Race Results

Unofficial tallies provided by Boards of Election and compiled by NorthCountryNow.com



Owens Hoffman Scozzafava % of Precincts reporting

Clinton County 10536 7530 686 100%



Essex County



Franklin County 4655 4108 234 92%



Fulton County



Hamilton County



Jefferson County 9996 9439 1155 99%



Lewis County



Madison County 7743 8110 1128 95%



Oneida County 2024 2779 362 96%



Oswego County 9953 10425 1310 89%



St. Lawrence County 7027 5156 566 55%



Totals 53,362 49,149 5,641

[michaz]

118. St. Lawrence starting to come in, now at 55%-7027 for Owens -5156 Hoffman n/t

[ChiciB1]

120. That Should Take Care Of The Absentees... I Guess, Even If They Split... n/t

[creeksneakers2]

121. 86% reporting

49.1/45.4

[Clio the Leo]

122. "hoffman may not show up at his own party"

This according to the reporter/blogger at the Owens camp...

alex over at the hoffman camp is saing hoffman may not show to his own party. another sign that the candidates are coming to grips with the numbers.

http://www.wwnytv.com/news/stream3

[michaz]

124. From Newzjunky

As the results from the voting machines in the 11 counties of NY-23 start rolling in after the polls close at 9 p.m. tonight, keep this number in mind: 10,226.

That's the number of paper ballots that were sent out in the special election to fill the seat vacated by former Rep. John McHugh, according to a Democratic operative charged with keeping tabs on this very important information.

Of that, just over half - 5,411 - have come in.

Of the rest, the military and special federal ballots (those given to ex-pats) are due back on Nov. 16. The deadline for the rest is Nov. 10.

Unless the margin of victory for either Democratic candidate Bill Owens or Conservative nominee Doug Hoffman is 8,000 to 9,000, we're headed for a massive recount a la NY-20.

The military ballots total somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,660 (I'm offering the grain of salt here because there are 11 county boards of elections and they're all delivering their own numbers, so there's a margin of error here).

I'm assuming most of those military ballots come from Ft. Drum, which is located in Jefferson County. That's Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava's stronghold, and remember: The paper went out before this became a two-man race.

There have even been some anecdotal reports of 23rd CD residents coming in to boards of elections and demanding their absentee ballots back since Scozzafava dropped out of the race and endorsed Owens. In other words: They're Scozzafava voters who have reconsidered.

The absentees break down as follows:

- 2,191 Jefferson County. (Scozzafava country).
- 1,583 Clinton County. (Owens country).
- 1,746 Oswego County. (Has been trending Democratic).
- 1,730 St. Lawrence County. (Has been trending Democratic)
- 874 Franklin County.
- 749 Essex County. (Hoffman country).
- 548 Lewis County.
- 406 Fulton County.
- 323 Lewis County.
- 230 Oneida County.
- 76 Madison County.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/11/the-paper-problem.html#ixzz0Vrcu47Og

[Muttocracy]

125. Interesting - Hoffman would have to get 4500 or 5000 of those just to catch up. nt

[Cha]

126. Thanks and there's this.. for what it's worth from faux..

"Fox News Projects: Democrat Owens Wins Race for New York's 23rd Congressional District"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4131701

[creeksneakers2]

127. 87% reporting

Still 49.1/45.4

[Muttocracy]

128. Hoffman conceded? nt

[creeksneakers2]

129. Hoffman live

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=5