Josh Marshall: NJ Overview

[ProSense]

NJ Overview

Listening to Chris Christie's acceptance speech, I'm only now realizing the pure depth of Jon Corzine's unpopularity. This has to be the worst speech I've ever heard. This guy is seriously not ready for prime time. And yet, he just got elected.

Summary: NJ really screwed up.

Christie is as corrupt as they come.

[Kdillard]

1. NJ is going to be so sorry.

[rpannier]

2. I'm not sure why there wasn't more of an effort to keep Corzine from running

I'mnot sure you can blame people when given the choice of corrupt or stupid for picking stupid -- especially in light on Blago in
Illinois having occured in the last year

[BrklynLiberal]

3. I am VERY glad that I do not live in NJ.

Everyone is screaming for tax cuts...but they are going to be even angrier when the services they are used to having are cut to the bone after the tax cuts they want leave no money for them..

I am really not sure why Corzine is so disliked. I guess it could be taxes...but do those folks expect to have all the state services they enjoy without having to pay for them??
I think Corzine is more a victim of the economy than anything else. A huge percentage of the financial area employees live in NJ.

[CreekDog]

15. We slashed our property taxes in CA

and we have the schools, roads, bridges and budgets to show for it.

be careful what you ask for New Jersey. you have a nice state there with good schools, roads and state services though you have high property taxes. if you cut them and gut your schools, all the money you save, you'll end up spending on private schools and prisons just as we do in CA.

word to the wise folks.

[BrklynLiberal]

19. Exactly right.....

[Kdillard]

25. You are so right.

[wisteria]

21. I think it was mostly the taxes. The taxes are high. But I predict Christie will last only one term.

Once he starts cutting and slashing people will start to complain about that too.

[BrklynLiberal]

24. Absolutely.

[CreekDog]

30. Tonight in the Bay Area, in city after city, we're raising our property taxes to improve our schools

some 30 years after passing Proposition 13 which limited those taxes to 1% of assessed value based on when you bought with no more than 2% increase allowed per year.

the gutting of our schools that eventually happened as a result of Prop. 13, which is why many of my neighbors pay $800/year in property taxes on properties worth $400k, was done in favor of cutting property taxes at any cost. and now we are faced with undoing it or instead of running schools, running warehouse day care centers for children.

New Jersey, don't make our mistake, don't follow us down the path of hurting our children and hurting our future to save some money each year --we are paying in dollars for every dollar we've saved in taxes.

[Cha]

4. Sorry, NJ.

[JackBeck]

5. Prediction:

Lame duck session passes marriage equality and Christie spends most of his term fighting the legislators over this social issue, further alienating the Republican Party in New Jersey.

[Cha]

6. Make some

lemonade outta this?

[BrklynLiberal]

26. The Democratic legislature is not going to let Chrisite get away with much...

I agree. It will make Christie look as bad as possible.

[JackBeck]

28. He's so freaking right wing this is not gonna end well the NJ residents.

Fuck. 4 years of this conservative douche. It really does leave me disillusioned with the Dems and wanting some leadership.

[karynnj]

32. As others pointed out, the legislature is solidly Democratic

I don't think that changed.

[flyarm]

7. The dem party pumped a shit load of money into NJ as did Corzine..

people in this state are pissed..and they are not taking it anymore!

Unemployment through the roof , while the goldman boys reap a shit load of tax payer money killed Corzine in this state! He is known here as the Goldman gov.

Many many dems i know stayed home and did not vote today.

I live in 2 states but do not vote in NJ any longer, for many years now..but i helped found a dem club here and i have heard over and over dems saying they were not going to vote , because they are damn pissed.
Real liberals and progressives are angry.

Note to dem party ..ignore your base and keep pandering to the DLC types at your peril!

Oh and I was a guest at Corzine's inaugeration when he was elected, because of the work I have done in the State of NJ for many many years.

[ProSense]

11. "He is known here as the Goldman gov." Really? n/t

[flyarm]

14. that is what everyone in my neck of the woods call him! eom

[Kdillard]

18. Well then they deserve what they get.

[BrklynLiberal]

20. Corzine did not even spend all the money he was allotted.

Not sure why..but that is what I read.

I think NJ will regret this decision.


And if you do not vote, you cannot complain...

[Justitia]

23. well, I guess those abstaining "Democrats" just got the gov't they deserve.

As a true-blue faithful TEXAS Democrat who votes in every election from dogcatcher on up - no matter how futile - those fucking crybabies should get spanked.

Now, they are about to get hosed.

[BrklynLiberal]

27. Yep. You are 100% correct.

[ClarkUSA]

34. Really? I worked GOTV in NJ and have heard no one refer to Gov. Corzine as "the Goldman gov"

Exit polls in VA and NJ firmly debunk what you're saying. Deeds was a terrible candidate and Corzine was a weak one.
The state of the economy damaged incumbents (e.g., Gov. Bloomberg almost lost his re-election to a no-name Democratic
opponent who ran a horrible campaign).

There's also an historic trend where the governorships in NJ and VA tend to go to the party which lost the White House (see
VA and NJ in 2000). Independents broke against the incumbent governors, as they always do at these times.

Democrats did gain two House seats, one of which (NY-23) was highly-contested and considered a bellwether judgment on
Presidential policy. Perhaps you need to take a deep breath and focus on that.

[depakid]

8. People blame incumbants for what happens on their watch

and New Jersey just had corruption scandals so extensive that they made a name for the state around the world!

Seriously- even in Australia.

[Nedsdag]

9. Don't get sick, Frank Lautenberg.

[fujiyama]

16. Good point

He's getting up there in age. That's all that worries me as a non NJ resident - the balance of power in the House or Senate shifting.

[tabbycat31]

29. that's what scares me the most

Frank Lautenberg better stay healthy. I don't think NJ has special elections for senators, and I don't think Christie would have to put a D in his place.

[Robbins]

10. NJ

MSNBC's exit polls have a 57 percent approval for Obama.This was not about him but a antiCorzine vote.
Some of the voters who polled saying they would vote for Daggert came home for Christie.This Is not a
landslide for Christie.a 4 point win against a Governor with 35 percent approval Is not great.

If Christie opts out of stimulas and health care If a Public opotion opt happens.He will be a one
term governor.Corzine was a one term governor.

[flyarm]

13. yeah , you just keep believing that....the fairy god mother will come for your tooth tonight!.eom

[Cha]

12. I can't wait to read what he has to say

about Virginia.

[Clio the Leo]

17. He just LOOKS smarmy..... I have this urge to bathe after seeing him on TV. NT

[BrklynLiberal]

22. Never mind. you mean Christie...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

31. He's like "Sopranos" corrupt! I think NJ voters will come to regret their vote.

My Dad lives in Atlantic City and he was very active for Corzine, even though Corzine had his issues. This guy was very unpopular. That's why Christie won, coupled with the fact that the Independent probably siphoned voted from Corzine.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

33. Oh well. At least IL doesn't have the most corrupt governor anymore.

W00t

[GoCubsGo]

35. IL ceased having the most corrupt governor after they dumped Blago

My state, South Carolina holds those honors now. On the bright side, they're looking to impeach Sanford. If Christie is as bad as y'all claim, he might not even be a one-term governor.