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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:10 AM
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Queen to Queen's Level Three..........
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 01:15 AM by Clio the Leo
June 2, 2009, 9:00 am
Obama to Name N.Y. Congressman the Army Secretary




Representative John M. McHugh, a Republican congressman from New York, will be nominated by President Obama to be secretary of the Army, according to officials, as the administration continues to reach into the ranks of the opposition for executive appointments.

Mr. Obama formally offered the Pentagon position to the lawmaker on Monday afternoon, and his nomination is expected to be announced later on Tuesday, officials said. Mr. McHugh would join former House Republican colleague Ray LaHood of Illinois, the secretary of transportation, in the Obama administration.

The nine-term House member, who represents a sprawling northern New York district that includes the Fort Drum Army base, is the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee and has a solid reputation with members of both parties for his knowledge of military affairs. He also serves on the Board of Visitors for the United States Military Academy at West Point.

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Democrats say they would have a chance at winning the seat though it would still favor a Republican candidate. If Democrats were able to flip the representation, it would leave only two Republicans in the state’s 29-member House delegation with redistricting looming after the 2010 Census.


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/obama-to-name-ny-congressman-the-army-secretary/?hp


That Palin Woman: Support Doug Hoffman
Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 9:28pm

I am very pleased to announce my support for Doug Hoffman in his fight to be the next Representative from New York's 23rd Congressional district. It's my honor to endorse Doug and to do what I can to help him win, including having my political action committee, SarahPAC, donate to his campaign the maximum contribution allowed by law.

Our nation is at a crossroads, and this is once again a "time for choosing."

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And best of all, Doug Hoffman has not been anointed by any political machine.

Doug Hoffman stands for the principles that all Republicans should share: smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense, and a commitment to individual liberty.

Political parties must stand for something. When Republicans were in the wilderness in the late 1970s, Ronald Reagan knew that the doctrine of "blurring the lines" between parties was not an appropriate way to win elections. Unfortunately, the Republican Party today has decided to choose a candidate who more than blurs the lines, and there is no real difference between the Democrat and the Republican in this race. This is why Doug Hoffman is running on the Conservative Party's ticket.

Republicans and conservatives around the country are sending an important message to the Republican establishment in their outstanding grassroots support for Doug Hoffman: no more politics as usual.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=157794838434



Rush Limbaugh livid: GOP has death wish
10/27/09

"Now, Hoffman wanted to run as a Republican. He is a Republican. He was passed over by the GOP, who picked Scozzafava instead. So he's running on the Conservative Party ticket because the GOP passed him over, but this is a wakeup call for both parties," he said.

"I know the temptation for a third party is tempting, but right now conservatism is on the ascendancy, it's actually good to be a conservative, and this is the time to reassert control over the Republican Party. It's not going to be easy but the Democrats, the far left didn't go out and form a third party. They took over the Democrat Party," he said.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114260



11/1/09
The new survey of the NY-23 special election from Public Policy Polling (D) finds Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman with a solid lead over Democrat Bill Owens, in a race that has seen a topsy-turvy weekend as moderate GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava dropped out and endorsed Owens.

The numbers: Hoffman 51%, Owens 34%, and Scozzafava (whose name remains on the ballot) 13%, with a ±2.3% margin of error. In a strict two-way matchup, Hoffman leads Owens by 54%-38%.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/poll-hoffman-leads-owens-in-ny-23.php



Steele: Scozzafava backlash was the primary
Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele on Tuesday questioned party leaders in upstate New York for using a committee process to select a congressional candidate, but said the ensuing public discourse served as a de facto primary that led to conservatives getting the best candidate.

"What you saw was a primary process -- that would have happened -- unfold before your very eyes," Mr. Steele said about the efforts of high-profile conservatives and others that in part led Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava to quit three days before Tuesday's election.

"Maybe you should have a primary the next time instead of having 11 guys in a room sit around and select your nominee," he added. "There's some lessons to be learned here."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/03/steele-scozzafava-backlash-was-primary/


White House Sees 'Ramifications' for 2010 in New York Congressional Race
November 03, 2009

The conservative rebellion against a moderate Republican candidate for Congress in upstate New York has "ramifications" for the 2010 elections, the White House said Tuesday, while dismissing as "navel-gazing" any speculation about the impact of the Virginia and New Jersey gubernatorial races.

But Gibbs was willing to acknowledge that the White House has some interest in the special election for New York's 23rd Congressional District seat.

"I do think there are interesting tidbits that we see coming out of New York 23," he said.

Gibbs' remarks were meant more as a warning to the Republican Party than Democrats, however.

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"I think there are a host of primaries that will affect 2010 next year that pit moderate Republican candidates and conservative Republican candidates," Gibbs said. "I think many in the Republican Party hung out a sign ... that moderates need not apply.

"I do think that has ramifications for next year," he added.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/white-house-sees-ramifications-new-york-congressional-race/


New York's 23rd Congressional District Democratic candidate Bill Owens celebrates his victory at Democratic headquarters in Plattsburgh, N.Y., Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009



YOU can call him "Barack Obama" ........ *I* will call him...... THE CHESS MASTA!!!!!! :fistbump:






No it's a lot more complicated, SARAH, than drill baby, drill," said Vice President Joe Biden.
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=7097031



(and lol ..... even as I post this, the Countdown rerun from earlier this evening has O'Donnel asking Fineman how he thinks the President should spin their pending loss in NY-23. ;) )
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:19 AM
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1. The Fates were with us on this..It's been repub since
1852 and POOF!..like Magic it's gone to the Dem Bill Owens! The District obviously had a sane person in the form of one John McHugh..so grateful they didn't go all rush limbbaugh-sarah palin on us.

Tip the hat to Dede!

Nice layout, Clio. You know there are some seething facists tonight!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:20 AM
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2. yeah, I'm about to go to Freeptopia....
... and see what they have to say.

Since MSNBC is now on repeat, I've switched it to Fox.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:26 AM
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3. F.R.: "Thanks, Newt! You are dead to me.:
To: tricky_k_1972

crap!

Well, NJ and VA are pretty significant. And if that RINO-biotch hadn’t queered things, 23 would have been a win as well.

Thanks, Newt! You are dead to me.

14 posted on Tue Nov 3 21:26:35 2009 by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378040/replies?c=14

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378040/posts
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:30 AM
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4. Gag. Yeah, it's all
Dede's fault. Not. rush-palin messed up big time.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:35 AM
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5. This is Strategy. This is what Obama does.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 AM
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7. Yep.
Whenever I get frustrated that Obama isn't being bellicose about some issue or other, I remember how grateful I am to have a cool customer in the WH. And whenever I want to barf listening to some right-wing gasbag, I remember how grateful I am that these blowhards are now the leaders of the Republican Party. In the long run, brains win.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:58 AM
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6. What chess move was that states decide civil rights vote in Maine?
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:10 AM
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8. You mean by the anti-gay rights folks? Unfortunately, they won.
Next question?
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:12 AM
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9. Leader of our party thinks marriage is between a man and woman and the states should decide.
Checkmate.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:21 AM
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10. I know about the first contention. I've never heard the second. Link please.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:26 AM
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11. You know about the first contention? LMAO. So is he lying or playing 3d chess?
JAKE TAPPER: Does the President or the White House have a reaction to the Governor of Maine signing a same-sex marriage bill?

ROBERT GIBBS: No, I think the President's position on same-sex marriages has been talked about and discussed.

JAKE TAPPER: He opposes same-sex marriage.

ROBERT GIBBS: He supports civil unions.

JAKE TAPPER: Does that mean that he's going to say or do anything against what the citizens of Maine–

ROBERT GIBBS: Not that I'm aware of. I think the President believes this is an issue that's best addressed by the states.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:27 PM
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18. What about what I said was hard to understand? You obviously didnt get it.
I said your first contention was correct, i.e., he has said he opposes same sex marriage/supports civil unions. I asked for a link to support your second, something you still haven't done, but lets take the text you provided at face value. I think it is a stretch to assume that what Gibbs was talking about here meant that Obama prefers referendums to deal with the issue.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:31 AM
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12. That's called HR 3657.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 02:54 AM by Clio the Leo
A bill that Owens will be more likely to vote for than Hoffman or the incumbent would have been.

Another chess move was called the "Memorandum for the Heads of Executive Departments and Agencies on Federal Benefits and Non-Discrimination."
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:14 AM
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13. If he was playing chess, he wouldn't be so damned many moves
behind in that game. We've been fighting for our civil rights for quite a while now while he's had the power to do something to help, and every time he could have helped he has chosen to do nothing, or had his administration side Against us.

Yet you are so in love with the man you Still think he's playing chess? :wtf:

When will you finally admit that he really just does not support LGBT people, and he is deliberately dragging his heals about doing anything positive to help us? How obvious does it have to get?

One endorsement in Maine could have influenced that election enough to swing the vote. One executive order at any time could have changed the debate throughout the entire nation.

That memorandum you mention is peanuts offering nothing new and nothing substantial. That bill you mention, he isn't pushing for it. It is his excuse for why he isn't doing anything else, and he's milking it. :(
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:55 PM
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19. The chess move where pro-gay-rights groups outside of Maine got horribly outspent by outside bigots.
You don't win if you don't show up. HRC didn't show up.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:07 PM
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21. And those "outside bigots" are getting on my last nerve
California....Maine....


:banghead: SOMETHING has to be done to counter it, because they've got LOTS of money
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:20 PM
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22. Seriously. This bullshit needs to stop.
I'd send a donation to HRC right away, but they've been so utterly ineffective that I've held off in search for a better organization. Got any recommendations?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:24 PM
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23. I'm pretty clueless
I feel pretty helpless, too. This is just wrong.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:15 AM
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14. Pretty good.. I must say!! pretty good
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:16 AM
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15. GOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:18 AM
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16. Frighteningly strategic, wasn't it? And once you go Dem ...
well you know. They've broken the ice up there.

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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:19 AM
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17. I can add nothing to this you said it all.
:toast:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:56 PM
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20. As previously stated on the DU, "Smartest motherfuckers in the room"
Hard to argue with that assessment
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