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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:31 AM
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Yesterday's message was, help the working class instead
of the upper class in other words move further to the left. America wants health care, jobs, and card check. If run as a repuke America will vote for the repuke. You better run as a progressive.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:32 AM
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1. Bread and butter issue win in recessions.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:32 AM
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2. Deeds's answers in health care were pathetic
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 10:33 AM by Jennicut
But Corzine did not seem overly conservative. It was property taxes there, although we have high property taxes here in CT too and don't freak out about it.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:38 AM
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6. Deeds was pathetic
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:34 AM
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3. America hates Wall St. and wants Obama and the democrats to fix and heavily regulate
the banks.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:37 AM
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5. Yeap, it would be nice if some of the banksters were perp walked too. FDR had to do this to win
...his second election IIRC. People were still hurting and point at WS and it was easy for him to demonize them
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:40 AM
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8. I do hope this happens. n/t
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:44 AM
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14. Bingo
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:14 PM
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16. Obama's economics team is heavily weighted toward Wall St.
Obama's economic policies are the reason why I'm upset with him at the moment.

He's done well in some other areas, and is clearly better than McCain (God forbid), but I don't see a lot of light at the end of the jobs tunnel.

What's more, I'm beginning to think that the Dems as a group don't care.

I've been seeing economic weakness for several years, and I've been looking for an FDR in the party for some time, too, but I still can't see him or her.

Obama wants to be Lincoln, which is fine and good, but not exactly what I'm looking for now.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:36 AM
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4. EXACTLY, A caller on the Ed Show said yesterday that is the current GOP move and that's how they
...are going to win back Washington because of the Obama's admins close ties to Wall Street.

I don't think it'll work in 4 years but given Corzines ties to GS was made an issue of in NJ I would be expecting it.

Our country doesn't have a good history of remembering the past
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:40 AM
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7. The message was we got TWO NEW DEMOCRATS in the US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
I am not sure what Governors do other than grandstand like Tim Pawlenty and that Perry wack-o in Texas.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:42 AM
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9. Obama needs to harness the nation's anger and
take it out on Wall St.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:43 AM
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10. Left or right isn't the key - it is who is deemed honest and competent enough
to aid the working class.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 10:51 AM
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11. Huh? It's a known historic trend that the losing party in the GE wins the NJ/VA governorships.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 11:04 AM by ClarkUSA
In 1994, Democrats lost a ton of seats and lost governorships in NJ, VA and NY.

Read more: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8732501

In other news that seems to be overlooked, Democrats picked up two House seats (one of whom was very hard-fought
against the Palin/Beck axis of evil) and Charlotte, NC elected its first Democratic mayor in history. Also, exit polls prove
that for a big majority of voters, Presidential politics had nothing to do with their votes. NY-23 is a district that has been
in GOP hands since 1852 and I don't think Owens is anything but another upstate NY "centrist".

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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:03 AM
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12. "Charlotte, NC elected its first Democratic mayor in history. "
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 11:04 AM by watrwefitinfor
I agree with your sentiment, but I don't think what you said is exactly right. Charlotte has had a number of Democratic mayors. Charlotte's first black mayor, Harvey Gant, was a Democrat.

:hi:

Wat
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:05 AM
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13. Oops, I meant to say NC's first Dem mayor in 22 years. nt
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 11:13 AM by ClarkUSA
:hi:


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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:52 AM
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15. There was no message yesterday. It was an off year election with horrible Dem candidates for gov.
Stop buying into the frickin' hype. Dems won governor positions in both of these states back in 2001 when Bush had like a 90+% approval rating because of 9/11.

It had nothing to do with being or not being a progressive.

God this shit makes me want to punch kittens.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:18 PM
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17. Yesterday's message was "Wake us when there's an election worth participating in...
...and while you're at it, stop running shitty candidates like Creigh Deeds."
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:35 PM
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18. Run as a progressive.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:38 PM
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19. Well, that's the "Tom DeLay/Sarah Palin" strategy.
As NY-23 showed, it doesn't work. We didn't lose because we "weren't progressive enough" any more than Republicans lost because they "weren't conservative enough." There's quite literally no evidence to support your claim.
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