Jesus Christ!!!!! Now the Dem's are talking about 2010 for a health care bill

[bigdarryl]

I agree with one thing Big Ed has been saying and that is the party is going to BLOW!!! this health care passage. WTF!!!!!!

[Sebastian Doyle]

1. That wouldn't be a bad thing

..if they totally scrapped the current piece of shit bills and started over with HR 676, or at the very least, the Howard Dean version of the actual public option.

[inna]

16. +1.

The "reform" (or rather, deform) doesn't kick in until 2013 anyway, so i'm not sure how significant this current delay is.

My personal preference would be to abort this travesty of a reform now, and start over with HR 676.

[Clio the Leo]

2. You and Big Ed might want to do a bit more reading....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8730692

Why the MSM is continuing to promote this story IN SPITE of Reid shooting them down is beyond me.

[Cha]

4. Far be it from big ed to

think outside the box and do some investigating as of late.

[Clio the Leo]

7. lol Far be it from Big Ed to stop screaming for five seconds. NT

[Clio the Leo]

10. I just wrote Ed asking him to LEAD OFF tonight with the news about NY-23

... and NOT about the Democratic losses in NJ and VA. Asked him to talk about how the voters of upstate NY delivered the electoral smack down to conservative Republican ideology. (crossing my fingers!)

[tridim]

5. It's obviously because the media is so damn liberal.

The shit that's ignored in the MSM and even on DU is astounding.

[Windy]

8. The hell with truth, its all about ratings!!! nt

[Captain Hilts]

3. Folks warned us about this yesterday....nt

[Epiphany4z]

6. I just can't f@#(!^& watch this anymore

I know in Dec my insurance will go up and I will probably join the ranks of the uninsured....I am not even sure I understand how any of the proposed bills are going to bring my rates down...or if they are supposed to...This has been one big mess...ahh ..i just can't watch anymore.

[wisteria]

9. Unfortunately, with the election results, and some shaky Dem's to begin with,

we will either not get anything passed with a public option or we will get reform in name only, so that it looks like a win for the president. I don't see Reid being able to convince the moderate Dem's to go along with this now. They will be to concerned about being to closely associated with the President.
However, if Pres. Obama's economic recovery moves along quickly and creates much needed jobs, this will give our party a big boost and we will be able to accomplish something. But, right now, I am pessimistic about getting anything passed because the Repubs think they have hit on a winning strategy-obstruction,fear and delay - and moderate Dem's will not sign their name to anything progressive fearful of the independent and conservative voters. Sadly, we progressive Dem's mean little to these people.

[amandabeech]

18. I think that Obama would have been advised to move insurance reform to the #2 spot on his agenda

after the economy completely tanked during the 2008 elections.

Get the economy going first (and don't pick folks like Geithner and Summers who are beholden to some of the perpetrators), then go for programs that are seen as costing $$$ (whether Obama says otherwise or not).

Folks don't support big programs when there's nothing in their wallet or their relatives' and friends' wallets.

[Dr Robert]

22. good thing Obama isn't paying you to think

I guess you didn't see that Job Losses dropped for the 7th month in a row.

Newsflash: Obama has gotten the Economy going again.

[Dr Robert]

21. you mean the elections where Democrats gained 2 seats in the House?

in Red Districts?

one which hasn't been Democrat since 1852?

Yeah, that should really frighten Blue Dogs...

[jonnyblitz]

11. LOL, tomorrow 'Big Ed" will compliment Obama and you all

will be proclaiming his greatness once again. :crazy:

[kjackson227]

12. I'm an Obama supporter also, but I think Ed does say UNPOPULAR things that need to be said...

jmo.

[denem]

13. BigD - All your posts have been along the lines of "The party is going to BLOW!"

You've been here longer than me. Maybe you've posted something constructive, but I can't remember it.

[PBS Poll-435]

14. We need 66+ votes in the Senate.

I hope the mid-terms go well...


:yoiks:

[Sebastian Doyle]

17. How about 66.6 votes?

That way the religious reich nutjobs can REALLY go crazy.


AAAAAAGH !!!111!1 ANTICHRIST HEALTH CARE !!111!!!111!

[Better Believe It]

23. I think 75 or 80 Democrats in the Senate might be enough.

How many seats can be picked up in 2010 from Republicans?

Well, you just need to get all of those seats and you might have enough votes for a relatively strong public option .... or maybe not.

[PBS Poll-435]

24. We really need 103 seats to get it done

:shrug:

Annex Puerto Rico and Guam right now!

[Armstead]

15. Let's just wait until 2012 -- The world will end anyway

...Kidding...

[onenote]

19. Which Dem's are saying that? LInk please

[Dr Robert]

20. so your post about this unproven speculation from yesterday wasn't enough, eh?

[Drunken Irishman]

25. You do know 2010 is like two months away, right?

I mean, Jesus Christ! JESUS FUCKING MOTHER GODDAMN CHRIST!

:eyes: