MSNBC idiots trashing Pelosi's saying the Dems won by winning two House seats.

[flpoljunkie]

You bet Nancy Pelosi won Tuesday night. She has two more vote to pass her health care bill on Saturday.

These loathsome people, including Katty Kay, have to spin themselves into knots to ignore the fact that the 'out' party has won in Virginia and New Jersey for decades. Now, if the Democrats had won, that would have been a story--no doubt, one they would have spun in a way that it wasn't a big deal (the Dems were just channeling Barack Obama, etc., ad nauseum).

Actually the Virginia gubernatorial candidate made himself into the pragmatic candidate, playing down his conservative credentials, and talking about 'jobs, jobs, jobs.'

[polichick]

1. They're just too stupid to see that she was talking about the House...

FOOLS!

[flpoljunkie]

6. They know full well what Speaker Pelosi meant.

[rasputin1952]

2. I saw that just before I popped over to CSPAN...

Apples/Oranges...Fed/State

Then there's #'s involved, how many voters showed up vs how many are registered; which party showed up in greater strength; other issue on the ballots that might have encouraged voter turnout/holdout.



It comes down to, 2 House seats beats 2 Governors...especially if the governor of the state is challenged by either House/Senate in said state.

[OHdem10]

3. We are being set-up for changes. Dem Pres. and GOP Legislature

Watch the next few months with this in mind. Psst Listen Carefully.

Just thinking.

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[peaches2003]

5. MSNBC was like Fox

I watched MSNBC almost all day yesterday and was sick. Before Tuesday all they talked of was NY-23 and how important the teabaggers were, how the conservative would win, etc. Yesterday? Barely mentioned it. The only thing important was VA and NJ and how the Repugs won and how it hurt Obama. Not a word that the 2 gov. winners did NOT campaign as teabag conservatives and tried to avoid showing how conservative they really are. Nor did they want Palin there campaigning.

Listening to MSNBC you would have thought Palin had been a winner when in fact she was the big loser in NY-23. And MSNBC is liberal?

[Zen Democrat]

8. MSNBC is only mentioning NY-23 as a LOSS for conservatives, not a win for Dems.

And they completely cut off any videotape of Nancy Pelosi mentioning CA-10 -- that doesn't fit in their spin today. They all sound desperate for a clue.

[Sebass1271]

9. What the fuck is wrong with MSNBC? I thought they were

"liberal".. do we need to e-mail the CEO now or what? did they change presidents? why do we have to put up with this right wing bull shit all day? might as well just watch fucking fox instead.!!!

[iceman66]

17. There is no truly "liberal" news network.

MSNBC has a few hours of left-leaning opinion shows in the evening and that's it!

[bertman]

20. Thank you, Iceman66. They are ALL Military-Industrial-Corporate Complex mouthpieces.

[RedCloud]

26. Try Free Speech TV (online as well)

In depth analysis out the wazoo.

[Cha]

27. Here's some contact for MSNBC..

MSNBC
- Phone: [phone] EMAIL: [e-mail]

These emails have some msnbc people included..the president at the bottom, phil griffin..

Jim Lehrer [e-mail]
Andrea Mitchell [e-mail]
Andrew Sullivan [e-mail]
Bob Herbert [e-mail]
Chris Matthews [e-mail]
Chuck Todd [e-mail]
Clarence Page [e-mail]
Cynthia Tucker [e-mail]
David Remnick (the New Yorker) [e-mail]
Donna Brazile [e-mail]
E.J. Dionne [e-mail]
Ed Schultz [e-mail]
Eugene Robinson [e-mail]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28437928 /

Howard Fineman [e-mail]
Jim Lehrer [e-mail]

Joe Klein http://www.time.com/time/letters/email_letter.html
Josh Marshall [e-mail]
Keith Olberman [e-mail]
Mark Ambinder [e-mail]
Mark Halperin (no direct, but address him and use [e-mail] )
Morning Joe - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28437928 /
Bob Shuster- Feedback page-very bottom right column http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23580538 /
Rachel Maddow [e-mail]
Stephanie Miller [e-mail]
Steve Clemons [e-mail]
The New York Times Editors [e-mail]
The Washington Post www.washingtonpost.com
Thom Hartmann [e-mail]
Tom BrokeJaw http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152 /
Steve Capus [e-mail]
Phil Griffin [e-mail]

Thanks Frenchie~

[dennis4868]

10. the fact that the Dems won....

NY-23 for the first time in over 100 years should be the biggest story of the election....

[mstinamotorcity]

11. They are so intellegent

did they ever consider that any thing they need for their state they are going to have to go through a democratic administration and President to get it Duh!!!

[nyc 4 Biden]

12. Mika is a GOP hack in training. n/t

[JamesA1102]

13. For weeks they trashed Pelosi for the CIA thing

Now that an investigation has vindicated her, they haven't spent one minute reporting that story.

[Bitwit1234]

14. Please explain to me

that if governor seats are more important than those in the House and Senate, why do the republicans waste money and time, campaigning for them. Why don't they just run around the country so they can win the governorships and be happy..

By the way the Washington Post says McDonnell who won Virginia is the NEW STAR....gee I googled and did not find one headline when any democrat won a governor's seat. So if a democrat wins, it is just a win, but if a republican wins it is a wonderful thing, he is a star, blah blah blah. Isn't it ridiculous. Yeah the guy won and congratulations but they act like he is a god or something.

[Zen Democrat]

15. Mika is the dictionary picture of "elitist." So politically correct, and such an intellectual whore.

I think I can at least understand that Scarbo is a Southern Republican politician. Mika has no excuse for dancing into the darkness of twisted propaganda, and fawning over every fascist that walks in the door and sits down at the desk with a Starbuck's latte and a well-defined corporate agenda.

People like Scarbo aren't a threat. The "look at meeeeee-ka" types are treacherous.

[ClarkUSA]

16. Both VA and NJ governors used the words and imagery of Pres. Obama on their flyers and ads...

Neither ever mentioned they were Republican and both basically ran as RINOs to win.

[flpoljunkie]

19. Yes, they did!

[beac]

24. AND Republican victories in both NJ & VA were being predicted long before Obama was elected!

Watching the M$M spin this as a referendum on Obama is infuriating. :mad:

[LatteLibertine]

18. Yep

and folks on MSNBC keep harping on moderates went for the Republicans in VA and NJ without mentioning young and minority voters largely stayed at home. So those "moderates" were mostly white and in addition many of them were of the older crowd too. So I'm supposed to be surprised old white folks went Republican, particularly in VA?

As another said the Regent educated conservative in VA did not play that up in his campaign. His message was middle of the road and focused on economic issues.

[AspenRose]

21. I didn't like Katty Kay when she was on BBC. She's on MSNBC now?

Great. :puke:

[flpoljunkie]

22. Katty's an occasional guest on 'Morning Joke.'

[truebrit71]

23. Me either..she had an obvious axe to grind which is rather odd for the Beeb...

...they don't normally let their biases show through (whichever way they lean)..but BBC America is a little more obvious...which is disappointing..

[struggle4progress]

25. 2009 Elections Don’t Mean a Thing (Ruth Marcus | Truthdig)

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20091103_2009_elections_dont_mean_a_thing