Independents need DEPENDS

[wowimthere]

After looking at who won the governorships in Jersey and Virginia I've come to the conclusion that many of these independents who went toward the Republicans are one of two things. Republicans in disguise or DUMB! Didn't these so called independents realize that if it was "the economy stupid" then the following applies:

The republicans, one year removed from a new president was responsible for the shape this economy is in. Republicans presided over this economy the last 8 years.

Independents voted in two people who were part of the Republican party. They both had Rs next to their names.

Obama got elected because we didn't like what happened under Bush and so Independents turn right back around and ask for another bloody beating.

While these so called Independents are calling for fiscal conservatism, they can't seem to remember which party ran up the debt, which party was ultimately responsible for invading a sovereign country under the deliberate guidance of an administration that didn't get anything right.

Independents seem to be part of two ideologies. Don't fix nothin'. Concentrate on only one thing. independents are Republicans who are ashamed of the word "Republican" because of how dumb they act. It's a kind of disassociation from what many don't like about a party. People become Independents because they believe they are analytical thinkers but in this case their own independence sides with stupidity. Why would you vote a guy into office that is part of a party whose benchmarks are the hallmark of horrendously bad policies?

Independents have now shown that they are inept... at well... thinking. They aren't analytical. In Virginia and New Jersey, they fell for the trick... only one year removed from the catastrophe the Republicans presided over.

Republicans were instrumental in the financial collapse, the loss of jobs, errant wars, the housing crisis, laxed regulations and "say it ain't so"... independents turned around and thanked the Republicans for it by voting them back into office. These Republican governors are now all of a sudden different from the Republicans from a year ago? Heck of a job Brownie!

Independents... you're trying to tell America that you know what you're doin', you know better than everyone else because you sit squarely in the middle of Left and Right. Really?

Whose foolin' who? Here this Independents: By voting Christie and McDonnell in, two REPUBLICANS... you just used the bathroom on yourselves and you let everyone see you do it. You should have strapped your DEPENDS on. You're fools! Republicans talked you into becoming their fools once again and you ate it up.

Jobs will come back... the economy will come back and it will be a Democratic President who is responsible for it but guess who will sit on their asses and benefit from it? You guessed it. The Republicans. They will wait for their turn at total power only to fuck it up once again and then another Democratic leader will have to come in and clean it up again. Republicans aren't fiscal hawks. They are pretenders and independents and republicans without the benefit of Depends will sit back and watch the crazy show.

On second thought... if you're a shamed republican or just dumb then you're one in the same... an independent in a state that can't understand the difference in one year under a President who had to clean up the mess and eight years of a president who created the mess we're in right now. If you want more of what happened the last 8 years then hang out with the independents.

I'll take my chances with Obama and anyone with a D next to the name.

[stray cat]

1. Most independents don't view a D alone as sufficient to describe character

I will usually vote dem but not if I think they are more corrupt, two-faced, lying, or self-serving than anyone else running

[RedCloud]

2. Virginia has two democratic senators and a House majority so...

how freaking bad is it again? Furthermore had the Democrats run someone not so conservadem they may have gotten more votes in this sparsely attended event, which is what all wing nuts pray for.

[izquierdista]

3. Corzine isn't a Dem

He belongs to the Goldman Sachs party, which is WAY worse than any Republican.

[frylock]

4. you'll take ANYONE with a D next to their name..

and independants are the ones who are incapable of analytical thinking?! i vote on issues rather than personality or political affiliation.

[wowimthere]

6. republicans voted in lockstep for the war. Having a D next to the name? "D"iversity of Opinion

Republicans say no or yes in lockstep to... everything as long as it serves "the elected official" exclusively. Yes... I understand what I'm saying. It's why all of us are in "DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND". You're here too... I think.

[frylock]

7. i'm here for the LBN forum..

not cult of personality cliques.

[OHdem10]

5. Reading your excellent post tells me our party needs to do some

big time marketing. Getting an accurate Description of our Party
out would be profitable endeavor.

[CitizenLeft]

8. many "independents" these days are former moderate Republicans...

...many of whom, I'm guessing, defected from that stinking hellhole of a party within the last 4 years. These are the people who voted for Bush in 2004, but got disgusted after Katrina and all the other f-ups that followed it. These are also the same people who took one look at Sarah Palin and decided to vote for Obama, or not vote at all. So when the pundits go on their hysterical screes about "THE INDEPENDENTS ARE DESERTING OBAMA!"... it's most likely a matter of those voters prefering a reasonable Republican candidate who does not embrace the teabagging insanity, like NJ's & VA's new govs, over a Democrat in a statewide race. You would think these political "experts" in cable world could figure this out. But nah... much more dramatic to breathlessly announce that Obama is in trouble with "independents."

:eyes:

Ugh, I hate pundits! ('cept ours, of course. :P )

(btw, I have 2 very good friends who are independents, one a former Republican who is a huge Obama supporter, and now detests Republicans, especially the insane ones - she also supported Kerry. The other also voted for Obama, but she really loves Hillary. A third friend is still a Republican - voted for Bush twice (I tried :() but she happily voted for Obama and she still likes and supports him, as did her Republican husband and Republican daughter *LOL*)

[Patsy Stone]

10. I've been saying exactly that for days.

They are mostly Republicans who ran away from the insanity. It seems none of the media ever wonders where all these Independents suddenly came from. Selective amnesia often helps sensationalize a non-story.

[kwolf68]

9. No

I am in Virginia and voted for Dees, but didn't WANT TO...because he was NOT a good candidate. I am part of the rank-n-file Democrats who was UNINSPIRED to vote for Deeds. Imagine what non-rank-n-file think. On top of that, many Democratic partisans sat this election out.

-Virginia IS STILL a Republican state. The Obama win window-dressed the reality of Virginia. Northern Va notwithstanding, this state is still LOADED with Republican interest groups...religious zealots, gun toters, and military-industrial complex folks.

-NOT a big deal in Jersey either. Sierra Club (NOT a bastion of right wing ideology) would NOT endore Corzine. He was proven to be inept, Deeds was suspected to be.

Independents are not dumb, but many are NOT Liberal. Keep that in mind. They are not Conservative either...independents generally speaking like moderation...they want 'some' government involvement in economic affairs, but not too much. Most also do NOT get inspired by social issues (gays, abortion, etc)...so the fact McDonnell (ultra COnservative) was running didn't scare them, because in short...they don't care about those issues.

It's all good and as long as Obama can deliver a clear direction, the independents who helped vote him in 2008, will vote him in for 2012.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

11. Great rant!!!

I've been feeling much the same way about these so-called "Independents" for quite some time.