*This* is Barack Obama

[impik]

Look at the list of Organizations endorsing the House health care bill. No other president ever came even close to create such a coalition. This president is 100% right in his approach that most of the time it's better to compromise in order to achieve progress, than to take the all-or-nothing attitude that never lead to anything good. This will not be a perfect reform by any mean, but it'll be something worth at least 40 years of progress, and a terrific start to build on. Passing HCR and dealing with the unemployment, can pave the way to many-many years of Democrats governing America. It's time for some to take a step back and look at the big picture.



AARP
Advocates for Youth
AFL-CIO
AFSCME
Alliance for Children and Families
Alliance for Retired Americans
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for Geriatric Psychiatry
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Association of Nurse Anesthetists
American Association of Pastoral Counselors
American Art Therapy Association
American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American College of Surgeons
American Counseling Association
American Group Psychotherapy Association
American Medical Student Association
American Mental Health Counselors Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Nurses Association
American Psychoanalytic Association
American Psychotherapy Association
American Public Health Association
Anxiety Disorders Association of America
Arc of the United States
Association for the Advancement of Psychology
Association for Ambulatory Behavioral Healthcare
Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law
Association of American Medical Colleges
Black Youth Vote
California Rural Indian Health Board (CRIHB)
Campus Progress
Center for Clinical Social Work/ABE
Center for Community Change
Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
Child Welfare League of America
Choice USA
Clinical Social Work Association
Clinical Social Work Guild 49, OPEIU
Consumers Union
Corporation for Supportive Housing
CWA
Demos
Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance
Doctors for America
Easter Seals
Eating Disorders Coalition for Research, Policy & Action
Families USA
Family Voices
Federation of American Hospitals
Forward Montana
Friends Committee on National Legislation
Generational Alliance
Health Access California
Health Care for America NOW
Health Care for America NOW – Southern Oregon Coalition
Main Street Alliance
Mental Health America
NAACP
National Alliance on Mental Illness
National Assembly on School-Based Health Care
National Association of Anorexia Nervosa and Associated Disorders-ANAD
National Association of Community Health Centers (NACHC)
National Association of Mental Health Planning and Advisory Councils
National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of State Mental Health Program Directors
National Breast Cancer Coalition
National Coalition of Mental Health Consumer/Survivor Organizations
National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare
National Council for Community Behavioral Healthcare
National Disability Rights Network
National Education Association (NEA)
National Federation of Families for Children’s Mental Health
National Foundation for Mental Health
National Patient Advocate Foundation
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
Paralyzed Veterans of America
Rock the Vote
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Small Business Majority
Suicide Prevention Action Network USA, a Division of AFSP
Tourette Syndrome Association, Inc,
UAW
United Cerebral Palsy
United Methodist Church – General Board of Church and Society
United Neighborhood Centers of America
United Spinal Association
USAction
U.S. Psychiatric Rehabilitation Association
U.S. Public Interest Research Group (USPIRG)
U.S. Women’s Chamber of Commerce
Virginia Organizing Project
Voto Latino
Washington Community Action Network
Witness Justice
Young Democrats of America
Young Invincibles
18 in ‘08

[HopeOverFear]

1. Amazing

[impik]

2. Community organizer in action

[Engineer4Obama]

3. Wait the UMC endorsed HCR?

Good for them my dad's a UMC pastor. :D

[NYCGirl]

4. Yes, but some GOP lady on MSNBC said that the Wall Street Journal hates

it! As she said "the mainstream" hates the bill!

:rofl:

[goclark]

5. Keep it coming!

[movonne]

6. Does anyone have a list of the company's that don't want health care??

[Engineer4Obama]

7. Heres a tenative list

Aetna
Blue Cross Blue Shield
Humana

I'm sure I'm missing some of the big ones.

[alsame]

8. The GOP.

[bluescribbler]

32. Kaiser Permanente?

n/t

[stlsaxman]

36. Wellpoint and United...

[rury]

51. Don't forget

CIGNA!

[Fire1]

9. All or nothing gets nowhere FAST. Especially in a capitalist

country. Some folks never learn.

[impik]

10. Yea. Like any other big social change

Ever happened at once in America. It always take years and tears and sometime decades. I really can't believe that so many on the left will oppose such a major progress, only because it doesn't go far enough for them.

[Fire1]

12. The closer HCR gets to socialism the less likely it will

materialize. That said, I think this president has done an outstanding job on this issue.

[shadowknows69]

35. How many lives will be lost waiting for something that does go far enough for everyone?

[DownriverDem]

38. Politics = Compromise

How many Americans will die because we do nothing? Something many of us forgot or never knew:

Politics is the art of compromise.

That means we don't get everything we want, but we do get much of what we want.

[cry baby]

47. Welcome to DU!

That is my philosophy, too. I had family in politics...there was always the need for compromise, otherwise, nothing got done.

[shadowknows69]

55. Politics = The mess we have now.

We need leadership.

[Enthusiast]

71. We should have single payer

right now! It is the only cost effective way to provide health care for everyone. We all know it. We have had enough compromise.

[R. P. McMurphy]

63. True. But how many MORE lives will be lost if we scrap the effort made thus far?

I agree with you that the current proposals could be ***MUCH*** better. I believe that single-payer is what we should have. It appears that our politicians are not brave enough to go there though.

Give the RW crazies (that was redundant, wasn't it) some time to see that the sky hasn't fallen and in coming years we will improve the system. Sure, it sucks that we can't have it all now; but at least it's something to build on. If we demand everything now we will end up with nothing.

[katandmoon]

11. Even the current weak bill is no thanks to Obama

[impik]

13. Yes, sure. Because you know all the facts

The problem with some progressive is that they don't know when their Obama-Hate just become pathetic.

[liberation]

62. Criticism and hate are two very different things...

... I would like the Obama die hard apologizers to realize that if one must resort to ad hominems and misrepresentations to defend these policies, that they should take a look hard look at the strength and validity of such stances.

I am really tired of people equating potential with results, and dismissing actual results when they are plainly negative and don't fit their narrative.

Marketing can take you guys so far when trying to portrait a milquetoast legislation (and that is with a very liberal application of benefit of the doubt) such as this current health care "reform" farce, as some sort of political tour de force. I am starting to see a similar pattern of disconnection with reality which I don't care to see repeated after the 8 years of hell we went through...

[Cha]

14. Not true.

[CBR]

18. How could it not be partially, at least, Obama?

If he, as the President, wanted to design a plan or have a team design the plan, he could have easily done that. He chose to have congress step up. His choice. Whether or not you like the bill, Obama played a role in determining its course.

[Cha]

19. Doesn't matter to the perpetually bitter

hate club.

[liberation]

64. Did you even read (or comprehend for that matter) the message you were replying to?

[ieoeja]

39. You do realize that Congress killed '93 reform because ...

... the White House wrote the bill instead of letting them write it?

[katkat]

58. 93

According to the late John Chafee, one of the few decent Republicans, who worked to get healthcare through his entire political career, it was Hillary's unwillingness to compromise that caused that failure.

[avaistheone1]

15. And what are we getting out of it? Nothing really. The only real winners are the health insurance

companies which was Obama and Rahm Emanuel's design all along.

HeckofjobObama! Thanks for nothing.

[123m456h789d]

28. avaistheone1 GOP style

Speak for your self. It will help me and million more just not you and your gop horse you rode in on, the GOP style. thank for nothing in the brain but fear.

[avaistheone1]

41. You are confused.

I am with the radical fringe, the real Democrats, that are working for health care that makes sense.
We call it single payer.

I am not a sellout that is going to support giving the health insurance companies mandates, and we the people get crumbs for a public option.

If you want crumbs, then you must be the GOP, because it sure the hell isn't me.

[PJPhreak]

52. This is the the same kind of attitude...

That is tearing the "Other" Party apart...

"I am with the radical fringe,the real Democrats, that are working for health care that makes sense.
We call it single payer.

I am not a sellout that is going to support giving the health insurance companies mandates, and we the people get crumbs for a public option.

If you want crumbs, then you must be the GOP, because it sure the hell isn't me."

First what is a "Real Democrat"? A Radical? Moderate? Centrist? Blue Dog?

I don't think it matters as long as WE are Democrats! I Do Not Agree with a LOT of the things MY party is doing,BUT IT SURE BEATS THE HELL OUTTA THE LAST EIGHT YEARS!!!

The "Other" Party uses "Divide and Conquer"Tactics very well and YOU are falling right into their trap.

I also am for Single Payer...But I am a Democrat and for better or worse I will support Democrats!

[liberation]

68. I am sorry, but the reason why the "other" party is going the way of the dodo is because

they have been putting party over country since day one, and finally the hubris of such an attitude was too obvious to ignore.

What you are suggesting, in your post, is exactly that: party over country. Dems right or wrong, right? And the circle continues...

[Undercurrent]

16. Add

the American Medical Association to your fantastic list! (I'm a retired RN, and never thought I'd see the day when the AMA would come around.)

Kudos to our President!

[Capt. America]

17. None of those names matter --only Olympia Snowe can give us healthcare reform. You didn't know?

[One of Many]

20. So ...

Why aren't they speaking up, this coalition should be shouting from the rooftops dammit.

Also, the "Young Invincibles?" Wat?

[philly_bob]

21. REC for impressive list indeed. Credit where credit due. /nt

[Clio the Leo]

22. Pretty cool. NT

[salguine]

23. I don't care how long the list is, or who's on it. As an uninsured person, I still say

the bill is a piece of shit.

[firedupdem]

24. Rec'd n/t

[Kablooie]

25. I'd like to see a list of organizations that oppose it. Be interesting to compare.

[jillan]

26. Just curious - where did you get that list? I mean it's amazing and all but

there's no link :shrug:

[intheflow]

27. Impressive list, but where are the dentists and optometrists?

Those are my two most pressing health issues, but those doctors seem to be absent from discussions. :shrug:

[katkat]

59. dentists and optometrists

If you have a serious eye issue, you should be seeing an ophthalmologist, not an optometrist. Ophthalmologists are MDs and hence medical insurance.

Dental missing, that would be a big one - my impression is the bill does not cover dental? am I wrong? So why would dentists endorse it.

[intheflow]

73. Being legally blind without corrective lenses

isn't a serious eye issue? :shrug:

[JNelson6563]

29. K&R

:toast:

[SoCalDem]

30. Too bad they don't all get a vote in the seante

In the end it will come down to Nelson, Landrieau, Baucus, Lincoln, & Lieberman :grr:

[chill_wind]

31. Is there a website or link of further data around this list?

I'm curious, too.

[NYC_SKP]

33. Kick

Rec.

[earcandle]

34. they all signed up for a robust public option. Will they get that or be duped again?

That is the question.

[avaistheone1]

40. You can bet on it.

It is a done deal.

[BREMPRO]

37. impressive list and I agree with your analysis. n/t

[bleedinglib]

42. lack of religious support

When i say religious, I mean people of faith in God and belief in the bible?
There are a few names on this list, but every church in the world should be strong supporters in providing health care for
everyone.
Having health ins. may actually reduce abortion and
communicable diseases and a long list of problems associated with the lack of proper health care.
Cmon Brethren, lets get those rally caps on !!!
I'm very thankful for D U. as my first source of news. It's like c-span/Washington Journal on steroids.
Thank you brothers & Sisters!!

[katkat]

61. Not a lack of religious support

Members of Faith for Health:

National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc.
Progressive National Baptist Convention
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism
NETWORK, A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
United Methodist Church General Board of Church and Society
The Episcopal Church
Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference
Jewish Council for Public Affairs
Gamaliel Foundation
Faithful Reform in Health Care
Unitarian Universalist Association
African Methodist Episcopal Church (AME)
The New Evangelicals
National Council of Churches in Christ
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
United Church of Christ
The Latino Leadership Circle
Christian Community Development Association
Islamic Society of North America
Washington Office of Women’s Divisions, General Board of Global Ministries, United Methodist Church
Jewish Women International
Islamic Medical Association of North America
Presbyterian Church (USA), Washington Office
Disciples Center for Public Witness
Disciples Justice Action Network
Catholics United
Faith in Public Life
Faithful America
PICO National Network
Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good
Sojourners

Most of these I know nothing about, but there are some big groups in there, like ELCA and the Unitarian Universalists.

[HughMoran]

43. "big picture"

Glad he's not getting caught up in the minutiae - we need to get our foot in the door with this public option, never mind all the other stuff that's going to help many of us tremendously.

[HughMoran]

44. "big picture"

Glad he's not getting caught up in the minutiae - we need to get our foot in the door with this public option, never mind all the other stuff that's going to help many of us tremendously.

[Old Codger]

45. Looks good

Now all we need to add to that list is some democrat congressmen and senators

[fl_dem]

46. what cracks me up is some redneck

sitting in the middle of Oklahoma on his stock pileof guns thinks he is smarter than all the above mentioned organizations..

[xxqqqzme]

48. U.S. Women’s Chamber of Commerce - well

that's an eye opener. The male counterpoint is certainly spending big bucks on ads scaring people - in SoCal anyway.

[EVDebs]

49. Failure so far

His first year in office has been labeled a failure so far...please read ALL of this scathing article DUers and then, once something has been accomplished besides a great list of organizations, report back:

Essay: Steve Fraser on the Crisis of Capitalism
http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/page2/20091105_steve_fraser_on_the_crisis_of_capitalism/

[debbierlus]

50. This bill SUCKS - and most people don't understand what is in it

This list is a reflection of people wanting some sort of change over the horrendous status quo not realizing that the status quo is being EXPANDED under this legislation.

And, is precisely because of apologists such as yourself that place the politician over the policy that we are stuck in debating whether to SELL OUT for a piece of crap legislation that won't solve the problem instead of banding together and fighting for real reform.

I invite you to read my journal. Really read it. Read the links. Read the real costs. Read who won't be covered. Read the fact that this is a corporately written wet dream that only survives because people such as yourself will champion CORPORATE legislation because it bears Obama's name.

Shame on Obama. Shame on Congress. And, shame on you for capitulating to the corporate interests.

[Laelth]

57. Unless the Kucinich Amendment is included, I agree with you. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[winyanstaz]

65. You are right...this is such a shame too that this is the mess they are going for...

Lists be damned..this is NOT a good bill.
Read the dang thing.

[fascisthunter]

53. wow... what a pretty list you have

"lipstick on a pig"

[Politicub]

54. Wow - amazing!!

I'm so excited that we're going to start reforming HC!!

[Laelth]

56. That list should make EVERYONE very nervous.

This can't be good legislation if some of those organizations support it.

Without the Kucinich Amendment, passing this law will be worse than doing nothing.

:dem:

-Laelth

[Blue-Jay]

60. *This* is SPARTA!

[Stumbler]

66. And your point is...?

Posting a list of organizations that support the watered-down compromise that fails to meet the needs of those whose demands originated the debate fails to prove that Obama gives a shit about real health care reform, over trying to be likable in everyone's eyes.

Yes, he's a nice guy and has a great family. And yes, he's a breath of fresh air after an president who couldn't speak eloquently without invoking fear, terror or human suffering. But his administration's unreasonable expectations for the liberals who voted him into office to remain silent while the Senate capitulates again and again for a single, possible Republican vote (maybe-if), is the pinnacle of back-stabbing hypocrisy.

Why has he spent months trying to gain the support of those who will never support him, at the expense of those who actually did give up their time and money to support him? That's like having the Steinbrenners bending over backwards to get any and all Phillies fans into the stadium at the expense of the dedicated, loyal Yankees fans. It makes no sense and serves no point.

[liberation]

67. Your last paragraph can also be applied to the "strategy" by the DLC, and which was made prevalent

ever since Carter started shifting the Dems to the right since the late 70s: The Dems have been hell bent on throwing their liberal base to the wolves, in order to gain the support of people who would rather stick a white hot iron up their rectum than vote for them. What could go wrong, eh?

[Stumbler]

69. Exactly!

And when any of them are up for re-election, they suddenly find their liberal values that've been neglected and stashed away deep in the closet for so many years.

And I already know the answer: Obama's no liberal; he's a corporate-complacency "moderate" Democrat, who's concerns lie in "not rocking the boat," instead of "change we can believe in." Obviously, one of those makes a better bumper sticker than the other.

I'm sick and tired of being told people like Kucinich "have great ideas, but are unelectable," and that policies like "medicare for everyone" are unreasonable, while being given "the choice" between two moderate, conservative, corporatist candidates who ultimately bow down to pressure from big money interests.

*sigh* Time for a drink....

[Enthusiast]

70. Yes, but, the Heritage foundation

and Newsmax doesn't agree.

[botchan]

72. Official List

Is there a link to an official list of public support? I would like to talk about this on my health and wellness radio program tomorrow morning.

Thank you!!!

[Hekate]

74. KnR. Well done, impik!

Thank you. :hi:

Hekate

[LWolf]

75. How many more, or less,

would be "on board" if the health care bill was actually worth passing?