Consensus! Kill Health Bill: Repugs, Teabaggers, Purists, Trots. Don't kill: Obama, Dean, Krugman...

[HamdenRice]

So let's see.

"Kill" the imperfect but dramatic health care reforms that are emerging is the consensus of House and Senate Repugs, Teabaggers, DU's anti-Obama purists, Trots.

Those who say the bills should proceed and the reforms are a good down payment on creating a new universal health care reform system include: Congressional Democratic leadership, the Obama administration, Paul Krugman, Howard Dean, AFL-CIO, the American Medical Association and the American Association of Retired Persons, among many others.

As the French say:

Dis-moi qui tu hantes, je te dirai qui tu es.

[tabatha]

1. +1

[Oregone]

2. Kill the piece of shit

Whats that make me?

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[Oregone]

8. What's your obsession with that man?

Do you dig through his trash? Why you gotta drag him into every thread? Certainly wasn't my approach

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. +1. And if America has anything to say about it, he never will. And that's a good thing. (nt)

[geek tragedy]

4. Unrealistic purist. nt

[Cha]

5. It's only obvious what you are.

[Oregone]

7. Please elaborate

Labels are great

[depakid]

17. It is obvious

An Oregonian who lives in British Columbia yet still cares about the sorry state of the health care in America -and has read and understood more than 90% of the folks on this board.

[TomCADem]

10. www.handsoffmyhealthcare.org - Sponsored By Freedom Works

"Whats that make me?"

That puts you on the same side as these folks:

http://www.handsoffmyhealth.org/

The question to ask then is why the insurance industry if fighting reform so much if it such a give away? Who is funding this opposition? Also, why is the U.S. Chamber of Commerce dead set against the health care reform bill?

[vaberella]

14. Woah...just uncool. You'd join ranks with Repub fools over making some much needed changes?

Just because you don't get your way?! My God. And people wonder why Obama can't get things done faster, you're just like the Conservadems on the other side of the spectrum. Fuckin' hell.

[AllentownJake]

19. Last time I checked he doesn't have a vote on this bill

Nor do I yet people seem to be obsessed over opinions on a message board.

[Teaser]

21. the best entertainment value I have for my dollar

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[ej510]

6. Unrealistic or not that bill sucks.

[bvar22]

9. Add 1 more to the ....

That Bill Sucks column.
Thanks!
:hi:

Do the math:

New Price Tag = $900,000,000,000.00

Enrollment in the "Government" Plan = maybe 6 Million


Where O Where is all that money going to go?
:shrug:

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[bornskeptic]

22. The bill would decrease the number of insured by 35 million.

900 billion over ten years is 90 billion per year. Distributing that over 35 million newly insered people makes the cost about $2600 per person per year. Of course the bill would do much more than reducing the number of uninsured. It would protect people with individual coverage from losing their insurance through rescission and would protect people with group coverage from the danger of losing their insurance because of loss of job loss. In addition it would save everyone money in the long term by increasing preventive care and facilitating the streamlining of the healthcare delivery system, and much more besides. $90 billion is less than 18% of the annual Defense Department budget. If you think that is too much to spend on American healthcare, what do you think of that DU darling HR676, which would cost over a trillion dollars a year?

[Orsino]

12. Know who else would vote to kill that bill?

Hitler.

[vaberella]

13. Ooooh...you'll incite violent retribution from purists on this board. Vaya con Dios.n/t

[demwing]

16. Dems are known by the company they keep

if you'll pardon the paraphrase.

Who do we sit with? Bachmann and the teabaggers, or Dean, Grayson, and Obama?

[AllentownJake]

18. Your either with us or against us logic

Where have I heard this before...

[AllentownJake]

20. Consensus more troops in Afganistan

Dick Cheney, the Republican Leadership, and the Tea Baggers....that logic cuts both ways.