*** House Debate on Health Care Bill *** thread 2

[annabanana]

Thread #1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


Cspan: http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx

twitter:
http://twitter.com/HouseFloor
http://twitter.com/wonkroom

[amyrose2712]

1. They are bringing out their props. nt

[annabanana]

ooo Do we get charts & graphs?. .n/t

[annabanana]

2. The requests for unanimous consent are done!

[eleny]

5. Hopefully they've run out of steam

[Tippy]

54. Have you ever heard of a Republican running out of steam????

Mark my words this will get much nastier the closer it comes to a vote....

[aSpeckofDust]

3. what a douche. The rep holding the bill and saying the dems should read it.. I bet he didn't even ..

.. read page 1.

[jenmito]

9. While picking it up, he said he hopes he doesn't get a hernia from lifting the bill!

As if he was forced to picked it up. :rofl:

[aSpeckofDust]

11. Sounds like a pre-existing condition ! n/t

[adamuu]

93. HA!

[Hepburn]

25. Then he slams it on the table like a 2 year old?

Yeah, that a guy I would want rep'ing me in Congress ~~ not!

[Egnever]

69. Bohner held up the constitution the other day saying he was going to read from it

Then quoted the declaration of indipendabce instead. So them reading it is no guarentee any of it sunk in. In fact it probably indicates the oposite.

[grantcart]

4. Watching these Republicans is like watching professional wrestling

I can only stand about 3 minutes of either

[Kdillard]

6. I agree. Finally it is done. Now we can move on.

[annabanana]

7. I wonder how the whip is doing?. . . n/t

[eleny]

12. Obama is supposed to be on the hill right now

I think they said he'd be there at about 11:30. So hopefully he's doing some whip work right now.

[givemebackmycountry]

8. Thanks Anna!

History is what we will be discussing here today.

[Kdillard]

10. Yes this is history.

[annabanana]

13. Louise Slaughter is making a good opening statement. . n/t

[Kdillard]

14. Yes she is with thoughtfulness and strength.

[dave29]

15. awesome, a stop government run healthcare banner over DU

:(

[annabanana]

16. (buy a star..It'll go away)

[annabanana]

17. He's charging the repugs time for each one...It's all in the language. .n/t

[amyrose2712]

18. Did he just say "job keeping"?

[janx]

19. Yes.

He had the script but he screwed it up.

[annabanana]

20. tsk. .not ready for primetime. . n/t

[amyrose2712]

21. Freudian slip?nt

[annabanana]

22. The repugs keep calling it "job killing". .they must think they've

finally found a "winning frame". .kind of late in the game, isn't it?

[Kdillard]

23. Yep. Too bad so sad.

[flpoljunkie]

27. R's are cynically exploiting Americans' concern for economy. Health is one sector that's growing!

[annabanana]

24. Ms Matsui (D-Ca) on the floor.

I like her.

[jefferson_dem]

26. BREAKING: Stupak amendment has the votes to pass.

BREAKING: Stupak amendment has the votes to pass. Cantor, Pence, Boehner have confirmed they will vote 'aye'

http://twitter.com/wonkroom

[annabanana]

28. crap. . n/t

[flpoljunkie]

29. Totally expected. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state!

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops have given their blessing to the House bill--but only if Stupak's amendment passes!

[jefferson_dem]

33. I suspect (read: hope) the anti-choice Amendment will be stripped once the bills gets to conference.

That's what Schakowsky seemed to indicate earlier today at least.

[flpoljunkie]

35. Hope springs eternal!

[backscatter712]

59. Hope you're right.

The anti-choice amendment's an abomination, but hopefully it'll die, if not today, then maybe in conference committee.

[jenmito]

So they have enough Dems. to get the 218 to pass it?

[emulatorloo]

31. Why do they want to amend a bill that is Freedom-Killing, Job-Destroying?

Logically it doesn't make sense.

[jenmito]

32. They want to make the final bill as good for them as they can. They're still going to vote against

it.

[emulatorloo]

34. Yeah I know, Makes them hypocritical jerks in my book.

But I guess I had already figured that out.

[annabanana]

30. There is very little question who's on the side of the Angels here.

Every speaker reinforces that fact.

[Kdillard]

36. Finally Mary Jo Kilroy taking on the Job Killing meme.

[annabanana]

37. quick peek on CNN. Obama has just finished meeting with House Dems

Clyburn says "we are on the cusp of making an historic decision on the behalf of the American people"

Pelosi says: "It will be maifested today" "we will passs health care reform"

[tkmorris]

38. Man wielding the gavel sounds like W.C. Fields

It's almost comical. Anyone know who that is?

[annabanana]

39. Well he certainly commands attention!. . n/t

[Graybeard]

53. The distinguished John Dingell (D) MI, Dean of the House.

First elected in 1955, fighting for health care reform for decades

[Kdillard]

40. Now they are lying about the stimulus.

[Tippy]

55. The LIE about everything.....after all they need to keep

Those teaGagers happy

[cry baby]

41. dems reserve balance of time...think I'll hit the mute button for a while! nt

[Kdillard]

42. Yep I have the liars on mute too until the Dems come back.

[aSpeckofDust]

43. "2,000 page, 4,000 word document." ..So.. it has two words per page? Nice job repub.

[annabanana]

44. The repugs sure are flailing around there arne't they? Just

throwing everything against the wall.

[cry baby]

45. just gotta say....the repubs are sooo full of shit! nt

[jefferson_dem]

46. Dingell is using the same gavel that he used in 1965 for the Medicare debate

@CQHealthTweet:

[annabanana]

47. The presser with Pelosi after Pres Obama's meeting with Dems looks good.

She intimated that today the bill will pass.

[jefferson_dem]

51. Very good vibes...they were sending off.

I like.

[cry baby]

48. has Grayson spoken yet, or do we know if he will?

[annabanana]

49. I hope so. I sure like to watch him speak. .n/t

[cry baby]

50. DeFazio is good!

[annabanana]

52. Here comes Stupak.. (Theocrat, Michigan). . n/t

[jefferson_dem]

56. House Dems spontaneously chanted "fired up, ready to go" as POTUS left caucus meeting

RT @ThePlumLineGS: House Dems spontaneously chanted "fired up, ready to go" as POTUS left caucus meeting, Bill Burton sez

[Parker CA]

58. Luke Russert said he heard from many in the meeting that it was Obama's best speech yet. If only we

could've heard that one. Apparently it wasn't about policy at all, but rather focused on party unity and forging ahead as a cohesive group toward success.

[Politicub]

57. What are they voting on now -- ordering the previous question? I don't understand

So if anyone can explain it to me -- slowly -- I would appreciate it. :)

[annabanana]

60. Yes

1:01 P.M. - On ordering the previous question Roll Call 881 - Recorded vote pending.

http://twitter.com/HouseFloor

[Politicub]

61. So why aren't more dems voting yea?

[annabanana]

63. blue dogs

They have their 218, so no problem on this procedural vote.

[Politicub]

66. Cool - was getting nervous :)

I'm on edge today with something so important up for vote later in the day

[vaberella]

65. I see 246 to 10 dems on this one. And of course all Repubs saying NAY!

[Politicub]

67. I need to be more patient!

Did you see the 1 repug vote for yea that kept appearing and disappearing? I wonder if one of the other repug congressmen was taking the voting device from him and pressed nay? :)

[Graybeard]

64. Link here:

http://www.parlipro.org/prevquestion.htm


....

[ind_thinker2]

62. 10 dem nays on procedural motion to start debate 3 no votes

who are these crazy dems?

[Politics_Guy25]

68. WHAT would happen if??....

Things go far better than expected and the bill passes with even more votes than expected. Say just 20 dems vote against it instead of 30-35 and it's not even close in the end. 238-197 say. Would that matter if it's easy passage? President Obama could possibly have unified the caucus to get there earlier this morning. Who knows..

[annabanana]

70. So many confused people.. They have been lied to so often that

they have NO IDEA what's true & what's false.

[Kdillard]

71. I know listening to CSPAN can be sad.

[Parker CA]

73. I turned on CSPAN for about five mins and couldn't handle it anymore. The false information

that many callers were spewing was just mind blowing. These people truly are brainwashed by their AM radio overlords.

[Bodhi BloodWave]

76. *runs around in panic*

a yes to the bill is a yes to dismantling the constitution as we know it AAAAAAHHHH

*shakes his head* how i would have loved the ability to understand how some people tick

[jefferson_dem]

72. House Vote on "Proceeding to Debate" not close. Dems - 242 yes, 15 no (so far).

Excellent news for REFORM!

[Parker CA]

75. So here comes four hours of debate. There should be some batshit on steroids on display

very soon from the party of NO.

[jenmito]

74. These RW callers on C-Span are saying they're against this bill because nobody READ it...

and it takes away their freedoms. Someone just said, "A 'yes' to this is a 'yes' to end the Constitution as we know it." If they haven't read the bill, how do they know? They keep spouting Glenn Beck talking points.

[Parker CA]

78. I was laughing at one of those callers. Wish someone would ask him when he read it to know how

absolutely terrible, horrible, no good, and disastrous this bill is. HAHAHA. Just pure regurgitation of putrid bile.

[jenmito]

80. I can't wait to hear the Repubs. whine after it's passed!

It'll be a beautiful thing.

[Parker CA]

83. While they whine, I'll wine. ;)

[Kdillard]

79. I just started laughing when I heard that. Anyone can read the bill and as pointed out the bill is

on CSPAN's website. Then again it fits in with the lazy attitude for information that Republicans seem to like to cultivate.

[jenmito]

82. They don't WANT to read the bill. They just want to see Obama fail.

They keep repeating the RW talking points. They have no idea what they're talking about.

[annabanana]

77. Stenny giving official kudos to Dingall. . VERY nice. . n/t

[aSpeckofDust]

81. Yay, a chart. That explains everything, thank you rethug. N/t

[jenmito]

84. The Repubs.: "They want to ram this through! Why the rush? They need to slow down so we can work

on this TOGETHER and pass a bill the American people WANT." Yeah, right!

[annabanana]

86. yeah.. slow, like the b*sh tax cuts for millionaires . . n/t

[jenmito]

90. I don't even know why they pretend they want to work with the Dems., if ONLY they

worked slower, when the day before the same Repubs. were outside with the teabaggers talking about killing the bill.

[Kdillard]

92. It just sounds good and nobody calls them on it.

[jenmito]

95. True. That darn liberal media.

:eyes:

[Parker CA]

85. I wonder which super asshat puke was the only one to vote against marking 20th anniv. of the end

of the Cold War? Unreal. Stay classy party of NO.

[Parker CA]

87. Here we go. Get your debate on. 4 hour countdown begins now.

[annabanana]

89. Anyone want to take odds on how long "4 hours" takes?. n/t

[Parker CA]

91. How exactly do they milk more time out of this with the sanctioned times for each side?

[annabanana]

94. Just because the rules of debate say that there will be four hours

of debate once the rule has been approved, don't presume that there will be exactly four hours. Repubs may try some parliamentary moves as a show of protest, and there's also the House version of a filibuster.

The top floor leaders - Pelosi, Steny, and Boner have special dispensation to speak as long as they want without cutting into the overall debate time. Last June, when the House was about to pass a climate change bill with little GOP support, Boner read long passages from the text of the bill. He went on for more than an hour.

[Parker CA]

101. Thanks. So Boner may just stand there for hours, literally, and just read. Pathetic.

[annabanana]

88. Steny up first.. I don't always likethis dude... but he sounds good here. . n/t

[annabanana]

96. Should I open a new thread?

[Kdillard]

97. yes

[Graybeard]

98. Yes I think so.

This final phase will go on for a few hours.

[janx]

99. Joe Barton complained that he had to be in D.C. this

weekend. He had planned to be in Vegas.

[Graybeard]

102. Whine whine whine whine.

Brain-dead fool.

[annabanana]

100. NEW THREAD UP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8738183&mesg_id=8738183