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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:51 PM
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*** House Debate on Health Care Bill *** thread 4
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:53 PM
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1. Anyone ready to guess when they will bring it to a vote?
(I think we just may HAVE it!)
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:55 PM
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3. Here's a link to a thread saying they believe they have it
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:54 PM
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2. What is the name of the Madam Speaker?
I don't recognize her, but she is beautiful.

She reminds me of my old friend, Shari.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:56 PM
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5. belafonte?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:55 PM
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4. Miller, Chairman of the Education & Labor Cmtee
One of the authors of the bill. They are giving more time to the heavy weights.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:59 PM
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6. Our friend John Avarosis @ Americablog.com says....
The final vote will come about 9pm eastern -
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:01 PM
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7. Fingers crossed and knocking on wood. We're getting closer....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:03 PM
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8. Tom Price ('pig - Ga) What a massive pile of lies he's telling up there.
How the hell can they get up there and just lie in that baldfaced way?
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:05 PM
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9. Virginia Foxx again. LOL. nt
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:24 PM
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17. Foxx is an idiot! Effective 70% unemployment my buttocks!
Yep, the clown said that. Someone should send her a quarter and a clue.

Sorry for insulting idiots around the universe.
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:05 PM
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10. Not the Foxx Twit
Jeesus...She is dumber than Bachmann
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:11 PM
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12. Crazy as a f*ckin' bedbug.
People actually vote for her?:crazy:
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:06 PM
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11. Virginia Foxx needs to go .
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:25 PM
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18. She needs a checkup from the neck up! n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:20 PM
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13. Listening to Repugs trying to claim that the astro-turfing teabaggers
as "just regular Americans" is laughable
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:21 PM
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14. C-Span: Speaker Pelosi will be speaking shortly on the House floor.
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 06:24 PM by flpoljunkie
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:28 PM
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22. Thanks for the heads up! nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:22 PM
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15. All the fear mongering, all the misstatement of facts, will not
make their arguments correct.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:23 PM
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16. It's nothing but money money money with these guys...disgusting . . n/t
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:25 PM
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19. You Lie!!
Joe Wilson
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:26 PM
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20. I know...
:rofl: I can't see that guy or his name without remembering that!
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:26 PM
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21. when is the vote?
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:29 PM
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23. rumor has it, around 9p.m. Eastern n/t
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:30 PM
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24. Nice
should be a good freakshow up until then, perhaps even worse after.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:41 PM
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30. The "Schedule Update" on C-Span read that it will likely be at midnight E.T. n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:45 PM
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34. Yep..C-Span says a Midnight Thingy...done in dark hours/CNN Says Immenent!
Sheesh!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:31 PM
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25. Pelosi: Today we will pass the Affordable Healthcare for America Act!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:33 PM
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27. She seems fairly confident... n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:43 PM
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31. I heard a couple of "experts" say if she isn't sure she's got
the votes, she won't bring it to the floor, so she probably IS confident. :7 :hi:
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:33 PM
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26. A couple of inconsistancies I have noticed.
The RepubliCONS keep stating that:
1) the bill will raise taxes, by 800B, 700B, 1T dollars... Which is it?
2) the bill's length is 800, 1000, 2000 pages... Which is it?

They have not gotten together to get their lie straight. You can tell that it is fiction, when they all state something against it, and the number is different.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:50 PM
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38. This is why they run up the deficits, they can't count. n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:39 PM
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28. It sure sounds like they've got it, doesn't it?. . n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:47 PM
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35. Let's hope they "Pull a Bush" and ram through Strong Public Option in Dead of Night
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 06:48 PM by KoKo
at MIDNIGHT!

Although...I have to say after watching years of these votes....I'm giving to much to our Dems to pull a DeLay and do what he and Bush/Cheney/Rummy did.

Still...I have a sliver of hope yet...that they LEARNED from their YEARS in the WILDERNESS!

Thanks for this thread! It means a lot to continue the legacy of DU with a Proper Running Thread! :hi:
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:51 PM
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39. For reference purposes:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:23 PM
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98. Thanks...is this you "Kathy?" If so...good to hear from you.
Perspective...
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:53 PM
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99. No.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:41 PM
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29. The guy who made sure that the pre-existing condition clause will
be stricken as soon as the bill is passed is speaking now.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:43 PM
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32. Castle from DE or the previous guy?
I just got online - thanks for the links.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:44 PM
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33. previous - (guy from Ct. )
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:49 PM
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36. The great white hope lady!!
Lynn Jenkins :eyes:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:49 PM
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37. What a horrible,nasal voice she has...n/t
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:52 PM
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40. Anyone know when/if they will vote on this bill?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:54 PM
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41. Should be midnight ET.
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:58 PM
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44. Thanx for the info
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:55 PM
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42. John Kline is channeling the Chamber of Commerce now. . n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:57 PM
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43. What determines when they vote? nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:59 PM
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45. Well.. when there is no more time to "yield" to any distinguished
members.. Then voting on two amendments..THEN they vote on the bill.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:05 PM
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47. Bring it on!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:05 PM
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48. Thank you anna. nt
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:01 PM
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46. Go, Sistah Clarke!!!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:11 PM
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54. Oh no! NOT Bwaaaachman!!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:06 PM
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49. Andrews from NJ just did a rousing address.. (to applause)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:07 PM
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50. Get out the shovels!
I have never heard more bullshit and outright lies all in one place, all in one afternoon. I don't think even Hercules can clean up the shit left behind in the House chamber today.
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:10 PM
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51. Bachmann...eeww

:evilgrin:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:10 PM
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52. It's CRAZY MICHELLE!!
What a maroon.. what a rabble rouser..
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:11 PM
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53. Nice lei, Michelle.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:12 PM
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55. That was lame. (lei'm?)
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:14 PM
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56. Actually, I was relieved she was so, uh, succinct.
I was expecting an unhinged tirade.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:16 PM
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57. Me, too. I was bracing for 5 minutes of hate.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:19 PM
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61. was that really a lei, as in a shot at Obama?
grrrrr
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:18 PM
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58. Dan Burton is poor mouthing the US now.. that's the only thing
they have.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:19 PM
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59. Mr. Owens.. The NEW rep for NY's 23rd is speaking now!!
Welcome to the Big Show, guy!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:19 PM
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60. Owens had me worried for a second. Talking about jobs (which is the Repub mantra of the day)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:20 PM
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64. it was great because he made such a strong argument for taking it off small businesses! nt
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:19 PM
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62. Here comes sanctimonious Boner! n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:21 PM
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65. This is the THIRD time Boehner has used this tactic!
:rofl:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM
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67. He's asked it of EACH chair tonight. . n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:24 PM
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74. Who the hell elected that guy?!
He's a JOKE!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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76. Diebold . . . n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:21 PM
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66. HEY! He's asking the same question AGAIN.. He's asked it
THREE TIMES TODAY and he's been answered the SAME WAY each time.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM
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68. That's because he has nothing REAL to say! n/t
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM
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69. Maybe he'll understand this:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:23 PM
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73. Why don't they point out to Man-Tan that demanded guarantee = circumvention of democracy?nt
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:20 PM
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63. Orange you glad it's BOEHNER?
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM
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70. It's BONER, and don't you forget it! n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:23 PM
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71. His favorite flavor of kool-aid!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:28 PM
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82. His favorite color of spray tan.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:34 PM
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86. Or kool aid coming thru his pores. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:23 PM
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72. Garamendi, the NEW Calif. rep (progressive) is speaking his first time
too.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:24 PM
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75. Where were these "Republican plans" from 2001--2008???? Filthy liars.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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77. They mean the plan to screw up Medicare like with Medicare pt D
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 07:27 PM by Kdillard
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:27 PM
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78. And no competitive bidding. And NOW they're oh, SO concerned about the DEFICIT.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:27 PM
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79. Every RepubliCON has said that the bill would raise taxes...
and the amount that it raises taxes keeps going up and up and up. WTF is with this?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:28 PM
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81. They mean the rich will have to pay more.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:28 PM
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80. Jim Jorden, Ohio 4th-R
Has his eyes on the future... He sees himself as a major national figure.
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:29 PM
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83. Moran is such a moran. nt
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:29 PM
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84. How will we leave our children anything if they're dead? Kids need healthcare, too.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:30 PM
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85. They don't mean YOUR children! They mean THEIR heirs.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:35 PM
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87. Sam Farr: "Combat those fear mongers out there!! Vote YES!!" Excellent.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:36 PM
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88. Short and to the point.
Yes indeed!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:36 PM
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89. Inglis... Circular logic against the bill.
Unfreainreal!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:37 PM
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91. logic has NEVER been their longsuit. . n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:39 PM
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92. Actually seemed to argue
for higher penalties for not enrolling in a health plan.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:37 PM
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90. Has Grayson gotten up to speak at all today?
I've been watching off and on and haven't seen him.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:41 PM
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93. Debate on Stupak ammendment beginning now. Ten mins per side.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:41 PM
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94. Here comes Stupak . .n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:42 PM
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95. YEP. n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:43 PM
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96. NEW THREAD UP!!
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:48 PM
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97. Come on please defeat this dumb amendment.
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