10 months in, President Obama achieves an historic victory. Amazing.

[Faygo Kid]

Think of it: A health care bill covering our nation. Both Roosevelts wanted it; Truman fought for it; Johnson got some of it; Clinton tried but failed.

President Obama got it through the House, even in the face of opposition from Dems who apparently take their marching orders from Rush. It's a long way from being law, admittedly. The first thing the Senate Dems have to do is reject Grassley utterly. He is a cancer. Then, use this momentum to ram it home.

Many here oppose it. I know it's not perfect, but it's still a good day to be a Dem, and an American.

Certainly imperfect. That said, Shall we dance?

[Politicub]

1. Agreed -- this is one for the ages

And once the Senate gets its butt in gear, this President and Congress will go down in history as one of the greats.

[saracat]

2. And they threw women under the bus to do it. Stupak Amendment is an abomination.

But hey, as long as it looks good, who cares right?

[CakeGrrl]

4. Conveniently ignoring the OP's very qualified statement...n/t

[davidpdx]

6. The PUMAS have to have their gripes

[saracat]

7. Sorry.Not a PUMA. But believe as you like. Apparently supporting choice makes you a PUMA.

[davidpdx]

17. Failed reasoning

[dionysus]

33. bullshit excuse FAIL. and everyone knows it.

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[Faygo Kid]

20. No, saracat is not a troll. Far from it.

A voice to be respected. I agree with her, but this HAD to go through. I don't understand the Dems who pushed this, and I know Bart Stupak. I think we won tonight, but I totally disagree with the Stupak amendment. The perfect was not the enemy of the good tonight, but I understand.

I think we had to crush the GOP tonight to ever get health care reform, and we did it. Neither saracat nor I are bad people because of our positions.

[saracat]

27. Thank you. I respect your position as well.

[Aramchek]

22. you didn't want to pass the bill even before the stupak amendment

don't pretend that is why you oppose it.

[saracat]

24. Stupak was the icing on the cake. That is beyond too much.

Real healthcare that covers ALL Americans and womens rights attacked at once. I would never say that Stupak is the only reason I don't think this is a good bill.

[Clio the Leo]

3. "etcetera! etcetera! etcetera!"

And to borrow from ANOTHER Brynner movie, "so it is written, so it shall be done!" ....... well, almost lol

[saracat]

8. Yay Stupak passed. Celebrate.

[Clio the Leo]

13. Ok, now I'm not sure if I've told you this story before.....

.... but back in the say, the founding fathers had to COMPROMISE on slavery in order to get the form that more perfect Union. ;)

(and for those who dont know what I'm talking about...)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8737320&mesg_id=8737425

[saracat]

21. And I had hoped we were beyond that.And worse, we compromised with ourselves and not the opposition.

We have met the enemy and they are us.

[Clio the Leo]

23. Yes ............

.... they are



(sorry, forgive me, that was a low blow, but I'm high on an historic vote buzz.)

[dionysus]

35. i give that post style points

:)

[liquid diamond]

38. I hope this asshole pays for his vote with his seat in 2010.

[quakerboy]

39. Whereas I hope

All the assholes who fail to even attempt to bring us a world class health care system are the ones who loose their seats. I suppose yours is the more likely dream, mores the pity.

[dionysus]

34. strawman fail.

[dflprincess]

5. How is selling us out to corporate America historic?

It happens all the time.

[Faygo Kid]

10. You can always join the John Boehner Fan Club. He opposed this, too.

A small group, admittedly. They could use a leader.

Only requirement: Nice tan and expensive golf clubs.

[cleveramerican]

9. Before you pop the champagne.....

The senate still has to get their shit together.

I am waiting for Harry's response to this

[CakeGrrl]

14. Obviously, but it has to START here. And it has. n/t

[charlie and algernon]

15. I'd bet money that the White House is calling Senators right now

getting the ducks in a row, putting the pieces in place for the Senate's turn.

[Aramchek]

11. he got the hardest one first. Here go the Dominoes!!

[Clio the Leo]

18. For the first time I'm getting the feeling....

.... of momentum in our favor. The feeling that it's now HARDER for the Blue Dogs etc. to oppose the Senate bill now that the House bill has passed.

It's a good feeling.

It will last until Harry scares the crap out of us again on Wednesday. :)

[RepublicanElephant]

16. somebody better notify saturday night live.

wouldn't want them screwing-up another parody.

[ind_thinker2]

19. I am so proud

[Hutzpa]

25. He is not doing enough

just asked some members here, as you can see some of the threads starting on
how this bill is going to fail at the Senate.

In their eyes, he is nothing.

[Faygo Kid]

26. Ahhh, don't worry about it. This makes the history books, and he's not done yet.

I don't care that others denigrate this achievement. This is an extraordinary moment in U.S. history, and he just "happens" to be president now.

We are going to get an imperfect bill, but it will be a great achievement for Americans to get health care, and he is going to get it. This is transformational, for the nation and his presidency.

[NYC_SKP]

28. kick and rec.. nt

[stevenleser]

29. K&R

I love it!!!!!

[Nedsdag]

30. Kick!

:kick:

[Arkana]

31. We won?

Holy shit. It made it through the House.

Now we just have to get it past the Senate.

[Cha]

32. Thank you, Faygo Kid and Congratulations

to President Obama and all those who are working and supporting him!

[firedupdem]

36. K&R! n/t

[bluetrain]

37. Health Insurance for Men with Money. This is not a victory.

[JNelson6563]

40. Too late to rec!

Good post, love the image! :toast:

Julie

[Peacetrain]

41. Kicking back up