A question for Congressman Kucinich and his supporters

[Hutzpa]

If Rep Weiner an advocate for Single Payer and Rep Grayson an advocate for

a robust Public Option could vote for this health care bill(?)

What stopped you from doing the same Sir? as a PROGRESSIVE.


:shrug:

[DJ13]

1. Do we really WANT leaders with principles

Or do we want leaders who willingly compromise their principles just to claim hollow victories?

Thats the issue here, isnt it?

[FrenchieCat]

2. I want leaders that care more about people

than they do about being right about some eutopian ideal of what Health Care reform would look like if they were the dictator of the United States.

[DJ13]

3. Caring more about people would be the single payer option

Not a mandated buy private insurance or pay through the nose to go on our limited public option plan.

[FrenchieCat]

7. No, caring about people doesn't mean that a principle that will not be

should continue to be a "that or nothing" outcome.

You are more concerned with Insurance companies
than with the people who would benefit.

People are therefore collateral damage to you,
until you get what you believe is ideal.

That's too bad coming from a progressive,
who normally cares about people first, and foremost,
even if it is not 300 million people, but 38 million instead.

[DJ13]

10. Its absured to claim the high road while serving up another 40 million

indentured customers to the insurance companies under penalty of law.

Somewhere along the way winning became more important to some people here than rational thought.

[Hutzpa]

13. I would like to hear your

defense for Dennis on voting against ACE.

[Aramchek]

4. Dennis isn't as 'principled' as he is hardheaded

At least we got Cao to make up for Dennis' failure.

[question everything]

9. Politics is the art of compromise

Yes, we can sit at our keyboards and click our hateful posts, but, the good politics know how to compromise and how to forge collaboration.

Sadly, such compromises were more feasible before the days of the Internet, and YouTube and twitters where every single word and step can become "viral."

Sadly, this is why our society is polarized. Not enough are thinking about the, yes, common good. And, let's face it: "in your face" pays. Big.

I lived in California in the 90s when the Republicans lost all state offices because they "stood on principles." No, Arnold is not really a "pure" Republican, and one reason why he was elected is because he does not stick to their rabid "principles."

So the question is: do you want to govern or do you want to pout? To be a minority of one?

I hope that the Senators will realize that this is the last chance to pass something, anything, because we could lose our majority in 2010. So the question for them is: what is more important to you: your career or the future of the country?

No, this bill is far from any one's dream. But you have to break the status quo someway, somehow.

[high density]

11. hollow victory??

Give me a break. What Kucinich evidently wants is nothing at all, because there is zero chance of his ideals becoming law.

[Clio the Leo]

12. We want leaders who are able to get things done...

.... not just stand around and bloviate.

[question everything]

5. How, then, will he distinguish himself from the crowd?

How else will he get the needed headlines and, no doubt, contributions? How else will he be adored by his trophy wife? Or get visited by aliens, again?

Let's remember: all politicians are egocentrics. This is the only way that they get up in the morning and decide to run for office and, yes, withstand all the attacks and ridicules. They all have their ways to get the headlines in the local papers. I think that Kucinich is the mirror image of Michele Bachmann.

:hi:

[Hutzpa]

6. So he will rather pull a Lieberman

than support what most progressives see as a step forward.

Damn, I forgot about that wife of his......





:hi:

[LWolf]

8. I don't speak for Kucinich.

Are you really asking him this question, or just posting it at DU?

As for me,

I'm not in Congress, but if I were, I wouldn't have voted for it. I don't like it, I don't think it achieves the goals we should be achieving.

Clear enough?