I think its an insult to Grayson and Weiner

[demwing]

and dozens of other stalwart, progressive Dems who are everyday heroes, everyday of the year, to claim Kucinich is the only brave Democratic representative in Congress.

I'm not going to demonize the man. We would have won with, or without him, but his followers here on DU are insulting and shameless in their wrath over Congressional participation in what is, and will be proven over time to remain, a great victory for the American people.

Shame...

[emulatorloo]

1. I like DK, I just don't like his vote on this. And I appreciate what Grayson, Weiner have

and the others have done.

[grantcart]

15. exactly

[Clio the Leo]

2. I have been VERY impressed with Mr Weiner...

.... and look forward to seeing what else he can do for the party.

[Parker CA]

3. His few mins at the podium yesterday evening were outstanding!!

[Clio the Leo]

6. Yep....

.... and I'd love to put him on my list of "2016 hopefuls" but EGADS that name! lol

[bigwillq]

4. Link?

To the claims of DK being the ONLY brave member of Congress?

[vaberella]

14. You haven't been paying attention then? I'll answer your question.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8742377
All found at the above link. This is not counting the hearty supporters of those responses.

The best Democrat standing. No competition. nt

Post. 5

The only brave Dem!

Post. 6

The best of the Democrats!

Post. 29

[bigwillq]

16. Opinions

People have every right to them. Many here say Obama is the best president ever. Opinions.

Thank you for providing the link.
I disagree with the OP, though. I don't think it's shamless and insulting for Kucinich supporters to be passionate about their guy. It happens with many politicans. And it also doesn't talk away what those other DEM leaders are trying to do.

[vaberella]

21. Yeah, but the OP was speaking specifically about what DUers were saying in regards to DK.

You wanted the link to what they said. YOu're welcome for the link, but that's what they were saying. And many were saying in context to his actions last night.

[bigwillq]

22. Can they not feel that way?

:shrug: Can one not feel that way about Obama? You bet. And if one feels that way about Obama, it's not an insult to every other DEM president, or president in general, imo.

[demwing]

24. You must be able to recognize the difference

between saying "I think DK is the BEST!"

and "I think all Dems except DK are (insert insult of choice here)"

If you can't, let's just end the discussion at that.

[bigwillq]

28. I totally can see the difference.

But as I said below, people have their favorites and, yes, some resort to insults. Not my style, but people are free to feel as they so chose to. Not only DK supporters are guilty of this.

[demwing]

17. Here's a few examples

"The only Brave Dem" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8742377&mesg_id=8742404
"The only true progressive" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6956027#6959191
"Only one truly brave vote" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8742160&mesg_id=8742178
"Dems (except Kucinich) are sellouts" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8741067&mesg_id=8741093

That just a few. I remember reading many more, but only made a casual search on what currently sat on page #1 of GDP.

I don't mean DK any harm, and I know he took a LOT of nasty flack here, but for his supporters to make claims against all other Dems in an effort to support just this one, is really very weak.

[bigwillq]

18. It happens with other politicians as well here.

They think their guy or gal is better than the rest. Politics is a lot like rooting for sports teams! :) People are passionate about their favorite.

[demwing]

23. THis isn't about "thinking your guy or gal is the best"

It out insulting everyone else in an effort to make your guy or gal look better.

You asked for links, you got em, and that's all you can say?

[bigwillq]

27. Did I ever once say I 100 percent agree

with those who are doing this? I do, however, feel there is nothing wrong with thinking their favorite is better. It happens all the time here. I don't think it's an insult to any other politician. That's how they feel. I respect it.

[demwing]

31. Ok, and I think that vanilla is a wonderful flavor

Unfortunately, neither of these thoughts have anything to with what I was saying.

[Hutzpa]

29. You're being extremely supercilious

you asked for a link it was provided, you then come up with these
extraneous argument.....bitter much??

[bigwillq]

30. Not bitter at all

I appreciate the link. I never said I supported people that needed to insult another politician, but I don't feel that passionate supporters who believe in their favorite is an insult to another politician. It happens all the time here with supporters of other politicians. They have every right to feel that way and to express that. People believe their favorite is better. That's their opinion. They have every right to it. To me, their was nothing insulting in the links provided.

edit: This thread is insulting. There was no need for the OP to tell others that they should be ashamed of themselves. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8741738&mesg_id=8741738

[Cha]

5. Exactly..Dennis

is just Dennis..no more brave than anyone else who is helping our country.

[slipslidingaway]

7. Question - what did Weiner do to garner support for his SP amendment? n/t

[slipslidingaway]

19. ???? nt

[freddie mertz]

8. They voted their consciences as well. What's to condemn?

I hate the bill.

They probably hate the bad provisions forced upon it as much as I do, but they voted to move the process forward.

I applaud them for their leadership, and have no quarrel with them, even as I move to defend Dennis from the attacks going on here.

[impik]

9. He is not brave. He's a coward

To say "No" to everything is the easiest thing in the world. To deny people a real progress, only because it's not "enough" progress, is childish and pathetic. Grayson and Weiner are adults. Kucinic is a teenager.

[demwing]

11. I'm not trying to cast aspersions on DK

I just don't agree that he's the only brave dem, and the rest are cowards

[jenmito]

10. I agree that it's an insult to Grayson and Weiner. But I don't think Kucinich was brave. n/t

[Cha]

13. It does

seem selfish.

He's the one who said there would be no PO.

[GreenArrow]

20. I don't think Grayson and Weiner were either.

.

[demwing]

25. that's your opinion, and we're ok

I don't have to insult DK to prop up my favorite Dems, no one should.

[vaberella]

12. Bloody fantastic post. You've made my Bm'ed section besides K/r. n/t

[demwing]

26. tyvm /nt