House health care bill has nowhere to go in Senate

[cali]

WASHINGTON – The glow from a health care triumph faded quickly for President Barack Obama on Sunday as Democrats realized the bill they fought so hard to pass in the House has nowhere to go in the Senate.

Speaking from the Rose Garden about 14 hours after the late Saturday vote, Obama urged senators to be like runners on a relay team and "take the baton and bring this effort to the finish line on behalf of the American people."

The problem is that the Senate won't run with it. The government health insurance plan included in the House bill is unacceptable to a few Democratic moderates who hold the balance of power in the Senate.

If a government plan is part of the deal, "as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Connecticut independent whose vote Democrats need to overcome GOP filibusters.

"The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said dismissively.


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul
Democrats did not line up to challenge him. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has yet to schedule floor debate and hinted last week that senators may not be able to finish health care this year.

[rusty charly]

1. Don't any of these Senators

remember what The Republican'ts did when they ruled the world? We have power. Use it.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Yay! You must be glad. Now we won't get any reform...

And Obama will go down as a failure.

You must be so happy, cali!

;)

[cali]

5. huh? First of all, I support Obama. Secondly, I hope against hope

that a decent bill will miraculously emerge from conference.

[Drunken Irishman]

7. You said you hoped this bill would fail. It's going to fail.

You got your wish.

Reform is dead if this bill doesn't get beyond the senate. If it does, as per your article, it'll be even worse than the bill we have now.

You got your wish.

[LatteLibertine]

3. I won't be embracing

the idea we've lost because some Republican or Insurance company shill says so. I'll be doing all I can to put pressure on Washington to get it done.

[grantcart]

4. Yeah I remember those guys they are the same guys who said that Obama couldn't get

the nomination
win the election
pass the stimulus
pass the budget


but some people here will still fall for it.

[Aramchek]

6. it'll do fine. joe talks loudly, but carries a small stick

he'll go along to get along in the end.

[cali]

8. and exactly who's playing with their cheapo crystal ball, now?

[Aramchek]

10. I predict Obama signs a bill with a Public Option. Do you doubt this?

[cali]

11. In a word? Yes.

[Aramchek]

14. don't let your doubt cloud your perspective

[MarlaM]

12. What Joe Lieberman said today

Joe Lieberman (11-08-09): LIEBERMAN: If the public option plan is in there, as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote because I believe debt can break America and send us into a recession that’s worse than the one we’re fighting our way out of today. I don’t want to do that to our children and grandchildren.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/08/lieberman-filibuster-public/

It's sad but true. Joe is against progress.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. Lieberman is but one man.

[MarlaM]

18. But isn't one man all the Republicans need?

40 Republicans plus a Judas are sufficient to maintain a filibuster.

[Aramchek]

15. All Bark, No Bite

You'll see.

[HughMoran]

26. Joe can't be allowed to block this

We will have to hold session 24/7 until he caves. This is no joking matter - I'll go protest until Joe allows a vote on this.

[Pirate Smile]

21. A public option with an opt out on a trigger?

[Aramchek]

22. do you really care, or is it all a joke to you?

[Pirate Smile]

23. I'm thinking that may actually be necessary to get it through the Senate.

Lieberman is a pain in the ass. Snowe might vote for it with a trigger and it would give cover to the Conservadems to come along and then we don't need Lieberman. It needs to be a hair-trigger.

You do have to keep a little humor about things though or you'll go nuts.

[Aramchek]

24. it will pass the Senate with an Opt Out. the trigger is not an option.

[Pirate Smile]

29. Well, OK then. I'm glad you've got this all figured out.

I hope you are right and I guess we have 57 votes for that. Now we just need to figure out a way to get those other three votes.

[Aramchek]

30. they'll come around.

[vaberella]

9. That or he can await Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann descending upon him.

He'll lose those donations from big companies right quick.

[Jennicut]

16. Joe really is looking bad here for reelection. His poll #'s have been down.

He is trying to hold on by his fingernails by appealing to the conservatives who voted for him last time though the Dems that did have abandoned him.
He has no where to go. Desperate little man. I plan on writing some more nasty emails to him.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Yahoo/AP is right on cue.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8741343


and so are those who believe what they write.....

[BrklynLiberal]

19. Wow! Cool lemming video!!!

[RBInMaine]

20. The Senate will pass its own version, as it should, then it goes to conference. MSM can eat shit !

[Aramchek]

27. you are correct, sir!

[HughMoran]

25. Well, back to reality. Reid needs to force the Senate into session continuously

24/7 until the obstructionists start to see that they will pay a huge price if they don't allow a vote on the bill.

[Bumblebee]

28. another stupid, inaccurate, and wishful-thinking AP article. Nothing new.