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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:53 PM
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Maybe the government isn't competent to handle healthcare after all.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 07:07 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
When I think of "the government" I picture a bunch of ernest men and women at desks trying to do a good job.

I trust those people. They are my people... I'm from a long line of civil servants. They'll win a war, defeat a disease, build a dam. Good, smart folks.

But I forget that "government" also means Bart Stupak and Joe Lieberman.

Boehner and Bachman are "the government" and I wouldn't trust them to empty my trash.

Bart Stupak is not an aberration, he is the average Congressman... mister 218. Right in the middle. And he cannot be trusted with anything.

Aetna will kill you for a nickel but at least they don't check the Bible first. (Like the Monty Python game-show BLACKMAIL... "We're not here to judge, we just want your money.")

Scylla and Charybdis. No easy way out or through.


I am sure that any bill that passes will help a good number of people, so that's good.

But having bible-thumping cowards involved in designing something so important is... it's a nightmare. By the time the Senate gets done with it this health bill will probably have a flag-burning amendment tacked on.



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ProleNoMore Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:54 PM
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1. The Government Administers Medicare and Veterans Care Just Fine
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:55 PM
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2. Changed administer to "handle" to avoid that take.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 06:56 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:57 PM
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3. Veterans & Military don't get abortion care
Neither do the disabled and juveniles on Medicare. Or Medicaid.

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ProleNoMore Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:27 PM
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9. Does Not Change The Reply About Administration
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:30 PM
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10. True enough,
But they still aren't "perfect" plans. And just because this health care bill isn't "perfect", it doesn't mean the government isn't capable of handling health care reform.
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ProleNoMore Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:20 PM
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13. Agree - I Think The Government Can Administer A Single Payer System Like Medicare For All
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 08:20 PM by ProleNoMore
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:01 PM
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4. There is no perfect answer. But something's gotta give -
in a country like ours, anyone going without health care, anyone going hungry, anyone going homeless - is just in excusable.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:09 PM
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5. Well now there's a right wing talking point
Every right winger in the world thinks the government is incompetent to do everything but wage war.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:13 PM
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6. Read harder or think harder or something
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:23 PM
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7. Usually they mean the executive branch
That at least makes some sense. You're attacking the legislative branch, elected officials all. If they are elected and are "incompetent" I can't imagine what you are proposing in order to get "competent" legislators. In my book, they should always be elected by the people.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:31 PM
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11. maybe incompetent voters
get incompetent legislators?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:42 PM
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14. That's probably what it is
When they are "bought and paid for by the insurance companies" you have to figure who is responding to the attack ads and the media? The voters. When they won't elect someone because they are too short or have glasses or aren't Presidential or Senatorial looking, they're letting form over substance rule. And they don't have to be that shallow. Yet it seems a tough uphill battle to get people to consider the issues rather than run with the sound bites from the ads and the media.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:24 PM
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8. Once a bill is law, the Senate and House don't deal with it on a daily basis.
Everyday govt. workers do, and they are usually hardworking regular people.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:45 PM
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12. you seriously would abandon reform due to Lieberman or Stupak?
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 07:45 PM by Aramchek
they do not represent us or the majority of Americans.
don't give up on their account.
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