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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:16 AM
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European Support for Kerry--Isn't this the link he needs in his argument?
Hope Kerry staff saw the news today of how there is overwhelming support for Kerry in this election among people in Europe. It goes right to the core of the great line Kerry used in his Terrorism speech a few days ago when he referred to involving allies in Iraq saying "just because Bush can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done". This support from the European people puts a strong, logical bases behind Kerry's remarks. No European leader will get himself involved in this mess with Bush in power because their people hate Bush and, thus, the leaders fear they would be removed from office if they cooperated with Bush. However, if there is to ever be any involvement, it first has to come from the European people losing the hatred and anomisity towards our leader. This is a good sign from Europe. It's a sign they don't hate us but hate Bush. Remove Bush and the European leaders have the space to cooperate with us. Kerry should point to those polls in the debtes
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:19 AM
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1. Amerikans do not need yurpeans to tell us how to run our kountry.
Aside from the sarcasm above - there is a distinct possibility that European politicians are using their constituents' hate for bush to further their own agendas. This is in line with bush using fear to further his agendas.
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:20 AM
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2. That's for DAMN sure
It would allow the US to start anew, and Kerry could build a real coalition of the willing instead of just us, the Spanish (formerly a member), the Brits, the Aussies, the Italians, and a smattering of token deployments from other countries.
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:29 AM
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3. yes--what I'm trying to get across is that Kerry can say that as
long as the European people detest Bush, their leaders dare not get involved. But, because of the support he is getting among Europeans he at least has the door open to get something done and not firmly shut in his face. In other words, America do you want to try to get the monkey in men and money off our backs or do you want to stay the course all alone and get ravaged like we are???
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ianrs Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:36 AM
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4. yurp - don't go there (so to speak)
I'm one of the very, very many yurpeans who loathe Bush, but I do think that using the theme of what foreigners think about a country is a highly dodgy tactic, and nearly always plays badly, in any nation. Just imagine all the spew from the cable channels, limbog-types, about Kerry being, well, a French spy, basically; and then imagine the yellow-bellied, cretinous follow-up by the librul media about how Kerry is being painted as a ...

no no non (oops!) no no no!

K/E must keep it home-based in this respect ("I will rebuild friendships" etc.). If an electorate begins to think that it is being told what to do by johnny foreigner, kiss your campaign goodbye.

love and best wishes for November
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:08 AM
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6. Hi ianrs!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ianrs Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:19 AM
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7. why thank you!
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:39 AM
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5. no, will not work with the average slob
"John Kerry for President (Of France.)
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:24 AM
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8. Steer clear of this
The awfulness of European diplomacy in the runup to the war may have been overshadowed by the awfulness of Bush's diplomacy, but it was still there.

Only Moscow played it smart, and they were drowned out by clumsy European bungling. Think back to your own efforts to turn people against the war. Did Chirac's ham-fisted quest for relevance help your efforts or hurt them?

The "Europe Knows Best" line backfired then and it will backfire now. That well is poison and Kerry should stay away from it.
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