TV Alert! C-SPAN has Edwards, Dean, Gephardt, and Kerry on

[slinkerwink]

It starts now at 9:30PM---tune in, discuss and listen to what they have to say!

[slinkerwink]

1. lol, there's a radio jockey making fun of Bush

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2. just saw a shot of kerry shaking the radio jockey's hand

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

3. Thanks for the heads up....Football or Politics.....damn, TG for remotes

[hellhathnofury]

5. Same prob.

[spooky3]

7. Edwards is shining--with his populist, conversational style...

Nice to get to hear him for more than one minute at a time!

[slinkerwink]

4. Edwards is now on!

[chimpymustgo]

6. Edwards is WONDERFUL. Please give this man a hard look.

Talking about corporations, class, race. From his gut.

[slinkerwink]

8. he's my second choice now.....

[spooky3]

9. Yes, but also it's been well thought out.

He's just great.

[fairfaxvadem]

11. he is really blunt about Bush in person...

I've seen both him and his wife speak on separate occassions and neither one of them mince words about who George Bush is. She is brilliant and he is extremely charismatic, also very, very smart.

I like him a lot. Wish he had a better shot at the Pres but I may just throw my vote his way for the VA primary. He is very cool. Still torn between him and Clark.

[spooky3]

12. hi, fairfax, I'm in Arlington. I like Elizabeth too.

[fairfaxvadem]

28. hey, Arlington has a great Dem Committee...

maybe you are already a member, but they seem to really have their act together. Arlingon being a tad more liberal than Fairfax, not surprising. But we are making inroads. Wester Fairfax can be a bitch for us Dems though.

I know some folks who are die-hard Edwards people and I've been to their home twice to see the Edwards. I was really grateful for the experience since we don't get too many Prez candidates campaigning.

With a primary coming up though I'd like to one or two more out here.

[spooky3]

34. that's fantastic, fairfax, lucky you!

Yep, Arlington is Dem. country and has been since the 1940s, as I understand it.

[NoPasaran]

10. Thanks

Watching now

[chimpymustgo]

13. NUMBER 1 in standing up to GWB based on CQ rating.

Edwards is frigging AWESOME. I'm delirious...he's just fun to watch and listen to. TRUTH!

[UnityDem]

14. Love Edwards too

DEAN/EDWARDS

That's the winning ticket!

[spooky3]

17. thoughtful of them to put him on at halftime. Now back to football. :-)

[slinkerwink]

15. edwards did great! who's up next?

[slinkerwink]

16. edwards did great! who's up next?

[Sean Reynolds]

18. I like Edwards.

He did GREAT today! :)

[chimpymustgo]

20. Why did Dean come in, and now Kerry is being announced?

Huh?

[spooky3]

21. I'm guessing but I think he just arrived so they let people say hello

before going back to their schedule of Kerry next.

[Metrix]

23. Did Dean deliberately try to upstage Kerry?

That is the question I just had. I am not a Dean supporter, but still I don't want to believe my impression.

[spooky3]

26. What if he had a prior commitment and had told them he'd be late?

Could we please not jump to conclusions without evidence?

[KaraokeKarlton]

27. He's campaigning hard so he's just arriving a little late

He tends to run a little behind schedule because he always stops and talks to people and answers their questions. That holds him up everywhere he goes.

[TLM]

25. He just arrived.

Damn some folks look for anything to attack.

[KaraokeKarlton]

29. No doubt...it's really pathetic

n/t

[TLM]

37. Though you have to love that Dean gets a standing O

just for showing up.

[Sean Reynolds]

19. Kerry on now!

[TLM]

24. HA! This is the last time I'll follow george Bush anywhere...

yeah...at least he can admit he has BEEN following Bush like some lost puppy the last 3 years.

[slinkerwink]

22. kerry's up....

[LSdemocrat]

30. why does Kerry sound a lot more like Dean now?

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31. oh, they're trying to be Dean-lite....

;-)

[TLM]

35. I loved it when kerry said.... don't go to the cacus to send a message

go to send a president, because that's what we need.


So in other words... Kerry has no message, and voting for him is voting for the status quo.

[mitchum]

72. Give it a rest...

and shock all of us

[blm]

47. Yeah...tell that to the soldiers whose lives he saved in Vietnam.

If Kerry had followed Dean's lead what would have happened to those men?

If Kerry had followed Dean's lead and supported Reagan and Bush's illegal wars in Central America instead of investigating them the world would never have known about BCCI, IranContra and CIA drugrunning which led to the exposure of what we now know as the BFEE.

If Kerry had followed Dean's lead and kissed energy corporation ass for 11 years, he wouldn't have crafted the Kyoto Protocol with other world leaders.

Crack some history books open and learn to appreciate the serious efforts of other valuable citizens.

Process isn't everything.

[TLM]

32. I know Kerry today is giving Dean's speech from 8 months ago...

back when Kerry was attacking Dean for wanting Un support in Iraq.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/25/opinion/lynch/main541905.shtml

"Kerry's campaign manager, Jim Jordan, snapped at Dean's insistence on getting U.N. backing (a position supported by three-quarters of Democrats and 53 percent of Independents). "Gov. Dean, in effect, seems to be giving the U.N. veto power over national security decisions of the United States. That's an extraordinary proposition, one never endorsed by any U.S. president or serious candidate for the presidency," he told the Associated Press' Ron Fournier."

[Melinda]

33. WTG each and everyone of OUR candidates!! Screw divisive posts!!

Goddammit, can't we just have one fucking thread where we can applaud them all?!?!?

I am NOT going to diss anyone tonight - screw that! Anyone of them would be 1,000 times better than Bush*!!!

I missed Edwards (I'll catch him on the repeat, but Kerry was GREAT!!!!!!!!

And GO DENNIS!!!!!!

[spooky3]

39. Well put, Melinda. That Iowa house is PACKED tonight.

I'm glad they had a good turnout and good for all of them.

[ShimokitaJer]

45. hear hear

They're all on fire tonight! Imagine what we could accomplish if we worked together rather than spending all our energies attacking each other.

In other words, imagine what we'll accomplish when we have a single candidate to rally behind. Looking at the field tonight, I can't wait!

[revcarol]

36. What's the deal?

Why not all the candidates?

[TLM]

38. Because not all of them are running in Iowa...

[spooky3]

40. Kucinish, Braun, Sharpton were all speaking in DC yesterday

so may still be here.

Clark and Lieberman are not entered in Iowa, I believe.

[NoPasaran]

44. Kucinich on now

Give 'em hell Dennis!

[slinkerwink]

42. Clark and Lieberman aren't running in Iowa

[anti-bush]

41. So compare Kerry and Edwards

I'll preface this by saying I'm an Edwards supporter.

Kerry seemed to have more supporters than Edwards there by far (the Kerry, Kerry! chants) and he seemed to get more standing ovations than Edwards. Kerry seemed to speak a lot faster, and I don't if his speech really seemed to stick with me as well. Definitely more platitudes with Kerry. Edwards seemed to focus once again on his issues and I think he tried to make sure everybody understood exactly where he stood on the issues.

I think Edwards speaking style was more passionate, although Kerry was very good today. Edwards was more focused on bringing the people into the speech (lots of 'you and I' type things). Kerry focused on his war record and Iraq while Edwards focused on domestic issues. Kerry also spoke about domestic issues, but nowhere near in the great detail that Edwards did.

Kucinich is on now, and I fully expect it to be almost completely about get us out of Iraq, and cancel NAFTA.

[TLM]

46. Edwards blew Kerry off the stage...

If this were a battle of bands... Edwards would have been The Who and Kerry would have been Tiny Tim plunking his ukulele.

[maddezmom]

43. Dennis hitting a homerun

points to the WH lying about 9/11 and the reason of OIL.

[TLM]

48. But he needs to stop hitting the podium....

However he is getting much better at being angry instead of shrill.


He's looking so much better... thinking more and more of a Dean/Kucinich ticket. Although at this point I think Dean/Edwards is more likely.

[ShimokitaJer]

49. Great Kucinich bash on Bush

"We need fair elections in Iraq. Maybe this administration isn't familiar with that concept, but that's what we need."

It got a standing ovation. I even saw Dean in the audience smiling and clapping at that one.

[spooky3]

50. that's a great line! go Dennis!

[ShimokitaJer]

51. You've got to love Kucinich on health care

He was really making a connection with the audience on that one too. Lots of people nodding. It just makes sense.

[maddezmom]

53. He got a standing "O"

he's getting the crowd riled up... good job DK!

[TLM]

54. Great idea... in theory.

But those like Dean who have done it, not just ranted on the issue, know what it takes to get it passed.

And all the talk in the world means absolutely dick if you can;t get it passed.

[Rose Siding]

52. He sure can holler

[ShimokitaJer]

57. Yep... and I hate it when he goes into different voices

It always sounds childish and mocking to me. He has such important things to say and he sometimes just says them so badly.

[TLM]

55. Listen to the crowd... WE WANT DEAN!

I feel like Toby about to watch Bartlet announce his run for another term.


Now...watch this...

[hellhathnofury]

56. Dean! Dean!

[maddezmom]

58. talking tax cuts

he's talking about middle class tax cuts...maybe he'll tell us the plan.

[hellhathnofury]

59. The plan is not just to give tax cuts,

the plan is to give a hope for a better future, the plan is to truly help them.

This man has a vision.

[Sean Reynolds]

60. DEAN BRINGIN' DOWN THE HOUSE!

:party:

[chimpymustgo]

61. I WISH I could get excited about Dean. God, he turns me OFF!

I am sorry - Howard Dean will not be the leader of the free world.

Think about having to look at him all day, every day for 4 years. It just ain't gonna happen.

And stop with the EYEBROWS!

[Sean Reynolds]

62. Well hope you like changing channels.

Cause he'll be our next president! :)

[chimpymustgo]

65. He's denigrating AMERICA. Saying people don't want to be like us.

I understand his sentiment - but this is the WRONG way to go. America STILL offers the greatest hope and ideals of any country in the world (except Canada!). This makes me sad. Dean makes me sad.

[Zynx]

68. Oh stop it. I don't even think you believe that.

What he is saying is that Bush has made people hate this country. People fifty and a hundred years ago wanted to be just like us. Now that isn't so.

[Zynx]

64. Funny, I use that same image, and I can easily imagine it.

I see the same for Clark and in a funny way Gephardt.

[slinkerwink]

63. he's on a roll!

[hellhathnofury]

66. I almost feel sorry for George, he's screwed. Almost.

His voice is getting hoarse. I think he might lose it if he doesn't slow down.

[FubarFly]

67. I'm not able to watch.

Is this the stump speech, or are there new lines?

[hellhathnofury]

69. Mix. Nothing really new.

I think he has a long version and a short version. The jokes change some too.

[chimpymustgo]

71. I'm offended by Dean invoking 4 little girls in Birmingham.

That is so far removed from his reality.

Don't you guys SEE this??

Oh now he's on quotas, "the race card" - what the hell is that? He is so f*cking clueless on this issue.

[UnityDem]

74. Chimpy what's up?

It seems to me that you have a visceral reaction to Dean.
Almost as if you have a hatred for him.
Why?
Does he bother you even more than chimpy?
I understand that you don't want him to get the nomination, but geez, he is one of ours. I don't like Lieberman's policies. But, I don't hate him. I save my hatred for our REAL opponents...BushCo.

[Zynx]

77. When people get attatched to a candidate, they tend to hate their opponent

This is normal.

[maddezmom]

75. now on the power n/t

:(

[hellhathnofury]

76. You don't know very much about Dean.

You should look into who he roomed with at Yale. I have a feeling he learned alot from that expierence. Remember the time period.

[fairfaxvadem]

73. one thing I do like about Dean every time I hear him...

He has a pretty darn good sense of history of the last 40 years and reminds folks about the nutty crap that went down with republicans and the proud legacy of Democrats.

Folks need to be reminded of this stuff. I'm not leaning toward Dean but I do like this style of his in his speeches.

And if he is our candidate, I am totally okay with that. Frankly, I'll be glad when we finally have our one person show and we can let them loose on Shrub.

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

70. Howard Dean...........Smoooooookin'!

Whew...so much for being "off message." He's blowing them away.

[slinkerwink]

78. loved the part at the end where his mother came up to him!

[mzmolly]

87. Dean hit the ball out of the field.

... Edwards hit a homerun.

[hellhathnofury]

79. Those pancakes look good. He's got skills!

[mzmolly]

80. Dean ROCKED!

He was amazing. Edwards gets honorable mention.

[slinkerwink]

81. I echo the honorable mention for edwards.....

;-)

[Clark4VotingRights]

82. Wow, Kucinich blew them out of the water.

They were all good; he was great.

I appreciate that he's proposing great policies, not safe
policies like those that don't want to protect American
jobs and don't want universal health care.

Dean was good, albeit vague about policies.

Edwards was...peppy. Seriously. He was very invigorating.
But didn't explain why he voted for the Iraq invasion.

Kerry was quite good.
But didn't explain why he voted for the Iraq invasion.

[mzmolly]

85. I think Kucinich is proposing dreams, not policy?

JMHO. Dean's policys are clear and, on his website at:

www.deanforamerica.com ;)

[FXDS]

83. The red card?

Everyone was suppose to have 15 minutes. Edwards was on time, Kerry was under 2 minutes over, Kucinich was on the mark, Dean was close to 15 minutes over. What's up with that? Dean was over 13 minutes long! Maybe my watch had a glitch, I dunno.

[hellhathnofury]

84. You actually time these? But...

"Everyone was suppose to have 15 minutes"

"Dean was close to 15 minutes over. What's up with that? Dean was over 13 minutes long! Maybe my watch had a glitch, I dunno."

There seems to be a contradiction there. No big deal.

[ShimokitaJer]

86. I wasn't timing it, but...

it did seem that Dean's was longer than most.

Then again, there was really no one there to stop him, since all the other candidates left as soon as their bit was over. Dean got all the camera time at the end shaking hands and talking to people. That has to be valuable too, doesn't it? Why didn't the other candidates stick around?