OFFICIAL EDWARDS-CHENEY DEBATE THREAD #6

[Skinner]

Edwards looking good. Cheney looking not so good...

[No2W2004]

1. getting nasty

Cheney keeps repeating the same bullshit.

[kanrok]

2. Get the defibrillator

Cheney's gonna have a grabber.

[Nlighten1]

3. Dick Cheney - DOVE

http://www.slate.msn.com/?id=2072609

[Ellen Forradalom]

4. It's a tougher one that the last one

but then Darth Cheney is the brains of the operation.

[strategery blunder]

5. 90% of coalition casualties are American

GO EDWARDS!:bounce:

Edit: Exposing Cheney's lies! :bounce: Coalition as strong as it was in the first Gulf War---bu$h*it.

[LynneSin]

I loved how he forced Cheney to look at him

:bounce:

[meow2u3]

106. Ever notice this thing about Crashcart?

He never looks anyone in the eye. He forever averts his gaze.

My mom told me never trust anyone who won't look you in the eye. He's up to no good.

[realFedUp]

6. Cheney....one lie after another

partial truths at best.

[spooky3]

7. No more Mr. Nice Guy...Edwards is on fire.

[homerthompson]

8. cheney keeps talking trash

here's cheney's two favorite comments so far:

you're completely wrong,
you're completely inconsistent

[Vincardog]

you are not counting the IRAQ contribution? WTF

[Vincardog]

71. We know the shrub refused to bomb those camps before the war

[iconoclastic cat]

9. I'm having much more fun watching the subject lines go by.

Edwards is great, but this debate is killing me.

[joshcryer]

Edwards just got owned.

I totally saw that coming.

[gardenista]

36. What are you talking about?!

[joshcryer]

84. His failure to count Iraqi's as part of the coalition.

He should've seen that Cheney would use that against him. It was just so obvious. He should've noted that the Iraqi coalition is "underequiped" to protect their own country from terrorists, and he should've used words like "significiant portion" of the coalition, to differentiate between the Iraqi's and those who instigated the war.

[Skinner]

Dick is getting testy. (nt)

[gardenista]

10. GO EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!! Good, he pissed off Cheney! nt

[Fleshdancer]

11. This is good. Cheney is now resorting to emotional attacks

this is when people's arguements go down hill

[AntiFascist]

12. Our CIA shill is our best ally

[Kipepeo]

Cheney is such a DICK

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. Demeaning the Iraqis?????

What Iraqi forces? How many????

[LynneSin]

I wish John would have mentioned the Iraqi civilian casualities

but I'm still proud of him forcing Cheney to look at him when he talked about the 1000+ American dead soldiers

[Bad Thoughts]

14. What's sacrifice? You have turned the Iraqi's into victims

[2bfree]

15. Cheney is such a prick............

claiming that Edwards is demeaning the Iraqis. :(

[funkybutt]

16. OMG that was a STARE DOWN!

Edwards just gave Cheney a TOUGH look! *whew*

[liberalmuse]

17. FUCK YOU CHENEY!

What a putrid POS liar this man is. Edwards is looking good. Get him, Edwards!!! You have my permission! Cheney is scary--he practically just bit Edwards head off just now. Yow!

[Spiffarino]

18. Edwards not backing down

He's not letting Cheney get a grip. I love it! If he keeps going on like this, Cheney is going to drop the F-bomb!

[No2W2004]

19. DICK....COALITION CASUALTIES

NOT IRAQI CASUALTIES

[displacedtexan]

20. JE just dissed Tonga? We can't possibly win now!

The Dick is waaaaaaaay beyond his med time!

[da_chimperor]

49. Where else will coalition troops get their green coconuts?

It's hot in the desert! They need hydration and hammocks for R and R! They're a vial part of a coalition!

[elcondor]

21. Edwards can't let him go on that

motherfucking Cheney

[genius]

22. THe people we blew up should be considered casualties for our side?

[nyhuskyfan]

23. That 30 countries thing is bullshit

He's counting countries that offered their "support" in letters. If that's the same standard you use in the Gulf War, we had over 100 countries in that coalition.

[AngryLizard]

101. So let me get this straight

If we're just talking about coalition casualties, then we're at 90%. If you count Iraq casualties, we're really at 50%. Wow. That's a lot of dead people.

Now, when they're counting iraqi casualties, is that just those who are supposedly on "our" side, or does that count the 10s of thousands that have been killed by our bombs and the insurgents bombs.

These people have to be stopped. If Bush gets elected, things are SOOO going to get worse before they get better.. Do people really honestly believe that Bush is going to take better care of this situation? Based on what?

Getting rid of Sadaam Hussein has made America safer. By all means, PLEASE try and prove that negative!

[realFedUp]

24. Cheney accuses Edwards of not supporting the troops

geez...that's one of the last and desperate lines....

[realFedUp]

40. Edwards is a much clearer thinker and presenter

very appealing to real Americans.

[Kipepeo]

25. Demeaning Iraqis

Is that like KILLING Iraqis?

[MADem]

35. Cheney is getting PISSED...GOOD!!!!

Look at that SNARL!!!!!!

[freeplessinseattle]

26. oh, please "you're demeaning their sacrifice" I(nt)

[da_chimperor]

27. Come on JE! Force the issue!!!

Don't let that evil sack of lard get away with his BS!

[Fleshdancer]

28. Look at Cheney's face!!! PRICELESS! damn ogre

[Fleshdancer]

BOOM! opposed creation of 9/11 commission, opposed dept of Homeland Sec.

[Fleshdancer]

110. My eyes are glazing over. Cheney is rambling

[sonicx]

29. F yourself Cheney!!

[southlandshari]

30. Ohmyohmy...love JE for forcing eye contact!

"90% of the coalition casualties, Mr. Vice President...Mr. Vice President...90% of the coalition casualties are American"

He wouldn't finish his point til Cheney looked up at him. He is THE MAN tonight!

[Fatima]

31. JE looking great...while Cheney mumbles cliches!!! n/t

[madmax]

32. Edwards turned and got right into Cheney's face!!!

He's a fighter!

[Peanut Gallery]

58. He's doing great

Composed, on point.

[spanone]

33. Getting Nastier

[slinkerwink]

41. yeah, this is a knock-down fight!

[Ilsa]

34. I can't believe they've ever noticed the death rate aming Iraqis!

Cheney is talking about them like he is ready to propose a special memorial day in the US for Iraqis. I've never heard them ever mention it before.

[onager]

68. Thanks for the comments. Ifill seems to be...

...playing to Greasy Dick's strengths.

He keeps trying to conflate Iraq and Afghanistan, which he is doing right now.

[0007]

37. He should have gotton dickhead.

If Allawi is our strongest allied then we're in trouble

Why didn't JE smack him down on demeaning the troops and America?

[w13rd0]

38. Ask Cheney why he is so eager

to count "Iraqi forces" but NOT count Iraqi civilians and shroud dead US troops. Cheney is a boldface liar!

[JI7]

39. Dick Cheney is a disgusting creature

[cheshire]

42. JE is strong, he is not letting Dick get all the time. Pissing Dick off.

[Kipepeo]

43. I love what Edwards is doing now

breaking down how they continue to lie an dput on a rosy picture for re-election purposes

Mentioned * not commenting on Bremer

[lasttrip]

44. BREMER-go JE!

[rocktivity]

45. Cheney is doing pretty much what Bush did at Debate1

Repeating the party line no matter what the question is, and critcizing Edwards for not being consistent, LOL!

[displacedtexan]

65. Smirk III and counting.

What the hell is the dick talking about now??????

His job description. Sadam. Zarkawi?

Yawn.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

I ask a lot of questions

Not let reached the bottom line about the relationship between Z & SH...still not addressing Bremer...didn't I read something here that BUSH could have taken out Z but didn't a while back?

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. Mentioned BREMER again!!

Ha! Answer THAT dickhead!

[Memekiller]

47. Who's killing those Iraqis?

Are they only counting those killed by the insurgency we created by our incompetence? Or are they also including those killed by our military maneuvers?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

48. Inconsistancy of what is seen every day

Dick is lying to us. Yeah, we know that.

VP not said anything about Bremer's remarks.

[welshTerrier2]

Edwards: people know things are NOT going well in Iraq

this is flat out calling Cheney, and bush, liars ... it's the best thing he's said so far ...

[Duncan Grant]

IRAQ: Failure to plan. Failure to get others involved.

[Alenne]

50. Cheney is telling one lie after the other

Blatant lies. He's speaking well but most of what he is saying are lies.

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[Memekiller]

62. Freeper alert!!!

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[booksenkatz]

66. I guess you'd know best what righties are feeling tonight, right?

[unfrigginreal]

70. LOL

Yeah, I bet they are...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[spooky3]

you must be looking at the debate through very different eyes

than the rest of us.

[Jade Fox]

80. Do you actually think you're fooling anyone.......

[GreenArrow]

still an hour to go, but you are right

Edwards has had better facts, Cheney presentation. At least, that's the way it comes across on the radio.

[bushisanidiot]

109. are you watching the same debate i am?? Edwards is wiping the

floor with cheney. he's calling him out on every one of his lies.

Edwards has clearly won every question so far.

[MADem]

123. Go back to FR, troll--they're all getting drunk over there

[sbj405]

52. shock and awe!!!

[spanone]

Go Johnny Go!!!!!

[Ilsa]

53. Hey Dick, we can eliminate the Iraqi casualties by leaving the country! eo

[whatelseisnew]

105. dick lied, I have never seen a coalition bodycount include Iraqis

I have read other DUer's commenting on this accounting gimmick to keep the reported deaths low

[CitySky]

54. i wish edwards were answering the question about intelligence

don't you think ppl are getting tired of

he's lying

no, HE'S lying

now he's lying again!

etc.

[CitySky]

61. bam!

much better - * opposed 9/11 commission

[alexisfree]

55. what that f$$%%^ just happened

were the dick went????

[booksenkatz]

56. That was a MOAB... keep it up Johnny!!!!!

Kick that pasty ass!

[Dudley_DUright]

57. Hit him with 9/11 commission

[sonicx]

59. go john. no rose colored images!!

[Kipepeo]

60. cheney: "that's part of my job"

condescending asshole

[ClintonTyree]

94. And it's HARD WORK!!

n/t

[acmavm]

63. Crap, Edwards has got to quit letting Cheney bait him along. I like what

Edwards is saying, but he's letting that evil bastard set the tone for everything.

[orpupilofnature57]

64. You could call this a two sided debate.

cheneys rhetoric is a good spring board for Edwards to expose their shit.And he hasn't said halliburton yet.

[BlackVelvetElvis]

74. Yes he has.

[slutticus]

85. He did mention Halliburton

[AnIndependentTexan]

Good move by Edwards he threw the flip flop charge back at Bush

[BlueEyedSon]

67. If Cheney has a heart attack, does Bush get to be president?

[will work 4 food]

She said the H word eom

[countmyvote4real]

69. Edwards kicks ass. n/t

[realFedUp]

72. More lies.....

The Dem researchers will have its work cut out
for it tonight

[jakefrep]

73. This whole debate...

...sounds eerily like the *-Kerry debate, right down to individual phrases.

[No2W2004]

91. except for the hard work

uh oh...the Halliburton word again.

[Peanut Gallery]

Cheney rambling now

[da_chimperor]

75. Talk about how chimpy let zarqawi live!!!!! nt

[da_chimperor]

98. Ewwww! look at the creepy glare!

Children across america are cowering in fright as we speak!

[gardenista]

76. JE- Go in for the KILL on Zarquawi! Expose them! nt

[Champion Jack]

77. Darth Cheney on the defensive!

[RockaFowler]

Cheney Forgot Poland

[Gregorian]

78. "This administration opposed the formation of a 9/11 commission"

YIKES!
Yowza!
Zowee!
No comment from Snarl, I noticed.

[Kipepeo]

93. He needs to bring that up AGAIN

"This administration opposed the formation of a 9/11 commission""

[fryguy]

79. GOP plan to win is to explain what the job of POTUS and VPOTUS is?

we don't need a civics lesson about how many questions you ask asshole!

[tjdee]

81. NO TERRORISM MEETINGS BEFORE 9/11.

Come ON John.

I :loveya: him, but if he can't punch Cheney in the face, I wish he'd bring it UP.

[Fatima]

82. Beautiful....JE brings up W's opposition to Homeland Security, etc

and now Dickless is bringing up Zarqawi as if one guy was a justification for this madness...who knows if the guy is even alive!!!!!

"He's in Baghdad" PROVE IT KNUCKLEHEAD!!!

[dogtag]

Halliburton doing business with Iran. WooHoo!

[funkybutt]

83. "Now, after the war" OMG--it's over! that's great! Who won?

[Texas_Dem]

86. Those that shed the blood should get the contracts

to rebuild Iraq. Well, dumb shit Cheney, how many Iraqi's has Halliburton hired?

[realFedUp]

87. That last Cheney answer deserved a rebuttal...Ifill moves on

She's giving Cheney a break here.

[Cha]

125. We knew she would be this way....

When are our negotiators going to learn...get some neutral moderators.

[Ilsa]

88. Do I smell a Cheney flip-flop?

[Ksec]

89. By God he IS Mr Burns !! nt

[Ksec]

112. 10 bucks says Mr Burns needs another bypass after tonight

[Thrill]

90. Gwen asking TOUGH

questions

[BlueEyedSon]

IRAN IRAN IRAN sanctions

[txindy]

92. Whooooaaaaa! John Edwards is awesome.

I thought he'd easily hold his own, but this is beyond my expectations. Forget the positive contrast with Dickie, the HUGE competence gap between Edwards and * will not go unnoticed by the viewing public. This is like toasting * all over, again. Even our future VP puts our current pResident to shame, people will realize. This is a very, very good night!
:toast:

[AntiFascist]

95. Cheney is running out of customers with all these evildoers...

[MADem]

96. OH BOY--HALLIBURTON!!!!

Shit, he is looking at the TABLE!!!

Pants on FIRE!!!!!!!

[FlashHarry]

Goddamnit. Cheney is framing the debate.

Edwards needs to get his ass in gear, pronto.

[MADem]

97. How the hell did he go from Halliburton to N Korea???

Talk about changing the subject!!!
(Edit because my last post was a dupe--hit button twice, sorry!)

[tkmorris]

99. OK that's TWICE she's refused Edwards rebuttal

What fresh hell is this?

[panbanger]

121. yep!

I missed the very begining of this debate. Is Cheney getting the last word on every question part of the format, or just the bias of the moderator?

[fryguy]

102. Universal sanctions = bad; Unilateral war = good?

WTF

[LynneSin]

103. Hell no Gwen, Why would I oppose anything that would prevent....

...halliburton from making me & my cronies tons of money

:bounce:

[spooky3]

120. are we EVER going to get to Edwards' strength--econ. issues?

[CitySky]

104. ooh, now he even believes in going to the UN!

[jayfish]

107. JEEZE... It wasn't That Open Ended A Question -NT-

Jay

[Blue_Roses]

108. Edwards is holding is own

He is scratching the surface of the ice dick. He's shaking him, but that Cheney--years of lying --he just can't help himself--that's all he knows is lies.

[realFedUp]

111. Cheney's spoken for a long time now....

gads.

[0007]

113. Cheney is running out of material and is getting tired or pissed

[Fatima]

114. Dr. Khan??? They let him GO!!!

[da_chimperor]

115. AQ Khan!? He got off!

HIT HIM JE!

[PopSixSquish]

Edwards Forcing Cheney to Look at Him When Talking about the Deaths

has to be the picture of the debate

[ClintonTyree]

116. Bullshit..................

Khadafi had next to nothing as far as WMDs go. Lying sack of shit!

[ellie]

117. What is this, a Crashcart speech?

Let Edwards speak!

[BlueEyedSon]

118. Cheney looking REAL uncomfortable

he sounds so smooth though...

[Kipepeo]

119. "Iran has moved forward on their nuclear weapons program

on THEIR watch."

[Kipepeo]

"He was pushing for lifting of sanctions whiloe he was ceo of haliburton"

[w13rd0]

122. Cheney says Zarqawi is responsible for all acts in Iraq..

...and mentions Khan, btw, where is that Khan guy?

[CitySky]

124. 60 countries with Al Quada members

INCLUDES the U.S., right?