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CrowNotAngelGRL Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:51 PM
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Edwards hometown help
I'm trying to find some proof of Edwards and his hometown. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:54 PM
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1. what do you mean?
Proof of Edwards and his hometown? What exactly are you looking for?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:56 PM
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2. The town where his home is located is Raleigh NC = hometown?
The town where he grew up is Robbins, NC (very small town).

The town where he was born is in South Carolina.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:58 PM
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4. I think the poster wants to know that the hometown people don't hate
Edwards. Rember Cheney's remark about "your home town paper calls you Senator Gone!" Just some info that he has the support of his hometown folks.
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CrowNotAngelGRL Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:00 PM
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5. Thanks and
right. I just want to see if people do or don't hate Edwards there and if they really did give him the title Cheney claimed. Thanks.


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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:00 PM
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6. The Raleigh News & Observer has NEVER called him "Senator Gone"
and I don't even think the town where he grew up (Robbins, NC) has a newspaper.

Another Cheney lie.

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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:04 PM
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17. Born in Seneca, SC
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:58 PM
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3. Are you referring to the line about Edwards not showing up?
and how his "hometown newspaper" called him?

The link is www.newsobserver.com. It's the News & Observer of Raleigh, NC, where Edwards lives (at least part-time).

On the other hand, Edwards grew up in Robbins, NC, and it's such a small place (a dump, to be exact) that I don't think it has a newspaper.

I don't know about the place in SC where Edwards was born and whether it has a newspaper.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:00 PM
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8. Ok... I found the article
Epithet coined at Southern Pines Pilot

At Tuesday night's vice presidential debate in Cleveland, incumbent Dick Cheney tweaked Democratic challenger John Edwards of Raleigh by saying that Edwards' hometown newspaper "has taken to calling you 'Senator Gone.'"
The epithet did not come from The News & Observer. It was coined by The Pilot, the weekly newspaper of Southern Pines, in the southeastern edge of Moore County. Edwards grew up in the Moore County town of Robbins, about 20 miles north.

(snip)

"During his 30 years in Washington, Jesse Helms was known as Senator No," the editorial begins. "Four and a half years into his first term, John Edwards is becoming known as Senator Gone."

The editorial noted that at that point, Edwards had missed many floor votes, including a roll call for a bill that would block a study of oil and gas reserves off coastal states, including North Carolina, and another that would have hastened the availability of generic drugs to consumers.

(snip)

http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/politicians/edwards/story/1705455p-7958886c.html is the link to the story.

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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:55 PM
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14. Did you see what they printed today?
Courtest of the Southern Pines Pilot:

http://www.thepilot.com/opinion/100604PilotEditorial2.html

-Grant
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:02 PM
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9. Edwards' hometown isn't Southern Pines
so Cheney lied again.

As a North Carolinian who keeps up with the news fairly closely I've NEVER heard Edwards referred to as "Senator Gone."
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:03 PM
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10. Never did I...
especially since I lived around the Southern Pines area...

Not to mention that the Southern Pines Pilot isn't exactly a wide-circulation paper...
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:00 PM
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7. There is a article about his home town here.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:05 PM
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11. Edwards was actually born in Seneca, South Carolina
and I've gotta tell you--it's pretty much a one-stoplight town, but it's located firmly in Repug Country (upstate SC). So which paper was Cheney talking about or was he just lying his ass off about this too? BTW--this must be a a Repug Talking Point because I heard ole' FU's daughter regurgitate it this morning on CNN when she was being interviewed by Bill Hemmer.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:40 PM
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12. Here's a clip from the Dailykos. I though it needed to be posted!
Cheney Attendance at Senate
by Dave the pro
Wed Oct 6th, 2004 at 17:30:44 GMT

(From the diaries, Cheney presided over the Senate a grand total of two times the past four years -- just as many times as Edwards, who also did so twice. Slightly edited -- kos)

"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session."
--Dick Cheney

I can't believe even Cheney is arrogant enough to state lies that are so easily verified! Guess his supporters are too stupid to check anything!
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:48 PM
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13. Apparent source of the "Senator gone" claim.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 01:49 PM by gcomeau
http://www.nrsc.org/nrscweb/newsdesk/articles/382.shtml

They say it's from "(Editorial, “Edwards Should Do His Day Job,” Southern Pines Pilot, June 25, 2003)"

Guess what the Southern Pines Pilot had to say about it today?

http://www.thepilot.com/opinion/100604PilotEditorial2.html

"It’s not every day that a non-daily paper in a small town gets mentioned in a nationally televised debate in prime time. But it happened to The Pilot Tuesday night.

“His hometown newspaper has taken to calling him ‘Senator Gone,’” Vice President Richard Cheney said of his Democratic challenger, Sen. John Edwards.

Well, not exactly.

The Pilot hasn’t “taken to calling him” anything.
In fact, the vice president’s obscure reference sent us scrambling to our library. And sure enough, we did publish an editorial 15 months ago, on June 25, 2003, headlined, “Edwards Should Do His Day Job.” In it, we noted that Sen. Jesse Helms used to be called “Senator No.” And we added: “Four and a half years into his first term, John Edwards is becoming known as Senator Gone.”

The reference was to Edwards’ frequent absences from the Senate floor as he traveled here and there (mostly there) pursuing his presidential ambitions.

But we also wrote: “Members of the senator’s staff point out that Edwards’ attendance record this year has been better than the three other Democratic senators who are campaigning for president — Joe Lieberman, Richard Gephardt and Bob Graham. And the aides also say none of the votes Edwards missed was close, so his presence on the floor would not have changed the outcome.”

Thanks for the plug, Mr. Vice President. We’re proud to count you among our many readers.



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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:43 PM
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15. The press here is very Republican and for the last year they have
loaded The Pilot with negative coverage on Edwards. Here’s the editor’s smug headline in today’s edition:

PILOT EDITORIAL: Edwards Should Do His Day Job
Editorial referred to by Vice Presdient Cheney during the Vice Presidential debate on October 5, 2004. This editorial appeared in our June 25, 2003 edition.

Last Friday his editorial was about how great W was in the debate.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:54 PM
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16. You missed something...
They just printed that to show what Cheney was referring to. this is what they WROTE today.

http://www.thepilot.com/opinion/100604PilotEditorial2.html

Basically, Cheney got caught stretching the truth AGAIN. The paper denies that it's taken to calling Edwards anything.

-Grant
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:21 PM
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18. I stand corrected. Thanks. Actually they have a very favorable editorial
on Edwards' debate performance. "...however they feel about Edwards' politics, home-county folks have to agree that he did them proud on Tuesday night." Interestingly there's mention that republicans are opening their Robbins headquarters office this Saturday. I'm surprised that any of the republican figureheads in this county can even find Robbins. They're too busy kissing up to wealthy Pinehurst to rub elbows with poor Robbins.
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