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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:33 PM
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Bush crowd "seemed pumped on peyote"...
http://slate.msn.com/id/2107847/

You Call That a Major Policy Address?
In a week of devastating revelations about his Iraq policies, Bush has nothing new to say.
By Fred Kaplan
Posted Wednesday, Oct. 6, 2004, at 1:57 PM PT

Did CNN and MSNBC get hoodwinked this morning? Yesterday, the White House announced that President Bush would be delivering a "major policy address" on terrorism today. The cable news networks broadcast it live and in full. Yet the "address" turned out to be a standard campaign stump speech before a Pennsylvania crowd that seemed pumped on peyote, cheering, screaming, or whooping at every sentence.

plenty more...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:38 PM
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1. This is sooooo bush...
the little boy who cried "Wolf!"..

"The president announced no new policy, uttered not one new word about terrorism, foreign policy, or anything else. He did all the things he wanted to do in last Thursday's debate—accuse his opponent of weakness, bad judgment, vacillation, and other forms of flip-floppery—though this time without a moderator to hush the audience, much less an opponent to bite back. And Bush loved it, smiling, smirking, raising his eyebrows, as if to say, "How 'bout that zinger?"

And bush is going to have to hide his Smirks on Friday night...I think Not!
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 09:46 PM
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7. Shadowboxing. How cute.
n/t
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:38 PM
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2. Yes folks it's the
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 08:45 PM by 101er
Beat Poets for Bush campaign in full swing here in Pennsylvania - with your host, Allen Ginsberg...

(Sorry, I'm getting a bit silly)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:40 PM
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3. clarification
One does not get "pumped" with Peyote. The buds of the cactus are are natural and of the desert. When used in a sacred manner, they open windows. That's all. There is no pumping, other than the BS being pumped out by BushCo
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:44 PM
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4. It's true
Sounds like they were pumped on some white drugs like * used to use. If they took Peyote they'd probably be horrified by the truth of what they saw.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:31 PM
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14. Yeah, that's one nasty bad trip.
23.


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:48 PM
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5. If They Were Cheering Bush They HAD To Be Tripping!
:D
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 09:38 PM
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6. Did MSRNC and CNN get hoodwinked? Shyeah. You can't hoodwink
your own propaganda outlets, can you?
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tmooses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:01 PM
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8. Bush Is Geting Another Free Pass From thr Media
The points he couldn't make in a debate he has to wait for a "speech" before the select few-the genuinely devout followers of a leader spouting lies. This guy makes Nixon seem balanced!:argh:
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:10 PM
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9. A telling comment.
Whatever the actual story, if Bremer truly thought at the time that there weren't enough troops, he should have resigned rather than carry out the order.

And Powell should have resigned rather than go to the U.N. and make that mendacity-filled presentation. There are probably a whole lot of people who should have resigned rather than implement policies and carry out directives their common sense and senses of honor and patriotism told them were wrong, but they talked themselves into staying, told themselves that if they left things would actually be worse, etc. And here we are.

Republicans, it seems, are never so patriotic as they are when it comes to their own careers.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:26 PM
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10. The higher the BushDroolers get
the harder they will crashland when the Chimp gets his miserable monkey ass kicked all the way back to the ranch.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:29 PM
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11. What crowd?
They never showed the audience.

Besides that venue probably doesn't hold more than 3500 people, even when it's full.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:32 PM
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12. trust me
if peyote were involved the crowd would have slayed him
trickster would insist
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:28 PM
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13. n/t
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 11:35 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:38 AM
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15. Equal time? CNN: 404-827-0234; MSNBC: 201-583-5000; email contacts...
pinned to the top of this forum.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:39 AM
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16. Best. Thread. Ever.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:18 PM
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17. 3 thoughts. No wait 4 thoughts....
1>Everybody knows meth (speed) is the preferred choice of the stormtrooper mindset.

2> Peyote is a sacred gift of Nature to be used for Visionary experience. These people wouldn't know what to do with such a thing.

3> The writer is lazy in his analogy. Beyond it's inaccuracy, he could have gotten extra points for alliteration if he'd said "pumped up on pep pills" which might earn him a beer or something in the high-five after hours journalist roundtable. Or, if he were truly going for a beatnik era allusion, could have said "hopped up on the bennies"....

4>All kidding aside, it was a good article by Kaplan. Hoodwinked they were! Surprise! I liked the part relating to Zarqawi, and wish there were more coverage of EACH of the Cheney l-i-e-s with at least some cursory context. (He laid it on thick, did he not?) It could easily be a series.

Then came news reports of a CIA analysis—ordered by Cheney—showing that Rumsfeld hadn't been misunderstood at all. The analysis concluded that there probably was no working relationship between Saddam's regime and al-Qaida lieutenant Abu Musab Zarqawi. This is significant in two ways. First, in the lead up to the war last year, the only physical evidence of a Saddam-al-Qaida tie was the presence of Zarqawi's training camp in northern Iraq. The camp was in Kurdish-controlled territory—an awkward caveat, but Bush officials at the time issued other, though looser, material suggesting a possible connection to Saddam himself.

Had the CIA's recent conclusion been reached two years ago, either within the administration or by Congress, the case for going to war would have been greatly weakened. In fact, as NBC News reported last March (and as almost nobody has picked up since), the Bush administration had several opportunities to bomb Zarqawi's camp well before the war. On at least two occasions the U.S. military drew up plans for an attack. But the White House rejected the proposals—mainly because shutting down Zarqawi's operation would have removed a key rationale for invading Iraq. This was a jaw-dropping bit of cynicism: Bush sold, and continues to sell, the war in Iraq as a major campaign in the global war on terrorism, yet he repeatedly passed up the chance to neutralize or kill one of the most dangerous terrorists (Zarqawi has spent much of his time lately chopping off the heads of foreign contractors) for fear of weakening the case for war.



BAM!
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