Legal to sell and buy fireworks in Az

[Monique1]

Let the tinderbox burn and the children get hurt, who cares - the tea bags just want your money.


http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/11/23/20101123arizona-fireworks-legal-sale.html#comments

[mvccd1000]

1. You're gonna have a tough sell with that argument, I think...

...Just based on my own experience. Most people who are not Arizona natives probably grew up in places where fireworks were legal (or at least readily available and commonly used). Those people will have experiences like mine showing that fireworks have been safely used for generations by millions of kids. Sure, there are injuries, just as there are in any activity. Your kids are probably less safe in the car driving to Tempe to watch the fireworks than they are playing with sparklers in the back yard, though.

While I can see the inherent danger in projectile fireworks when the surrounding environment is a tinderbox, I really don't see much problem with my kid using sparklers or snakes or miniature firecrackers in the street in front of the house.

[bergie321]

2. Snakes, sparklers, and firecrackers

Can cause a fire far easier than a cigarette butt and yet cigarette butts are responsible for many fires in Arizona.

I predict many fires.

[mvccd1000]

8. I predict the opposite.

I predict a few more fires, if that.

The majority of Arizona's population lives in two large cities. Do you really think a kid lighting a sparkler and running down the street in the middle of his development of 2,000 identical homes is going to somehow spark a forest fire on the Rim?

[bergie321]

12. Do you live in Arizona?

Do you not hear of the dozens of brush fires started every year in and around Phoenix and Tucson?

[mvccd1000]

13. Yes and yes.

And I stand by my assertion that 100,000 kids lighting 1,000,000 sparklers on 10,000 residential streets will result in 1) 100,000 kids having a lot more fun on the 4th of July, 2) possibly a VERY few more fires than we would have had anyway, and 3) a couple of kids wearing bandaids the next day after they got too close to the hot sparks.

In fact, if you want to bookmark this discussion and bring it back up next July after the 4th holiday, I'll buy you lunch if I'm wrong! (Assuming the entire valley was not burned to the ground by all of those fireworks.) :)

[PavePusher]

3. Better buy some more bubble-wrap....

it's a tough, dangerous world out there. So much to be afraid of, so few people to tell us what choices to make...

[Catshrink]

4. Don't forget the duct tape.

[strawberryfield]

14. The fastest way to get on my bad side is to tell me:

I have to do something, or I can't do something. Long live anarchy!!!

[liberalla]

5. Tucson City Council has made it illegal to USE the fireworks

It's legal to buy and sell, but not to actually use them.

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=13560510

[Catshrink]

6. Some towns - Gilbert and Mesa -

are writing code that will allow them to recover costs if the fireworks are used irresponsibly and cause fires, etc. Right, that will work. They'll never see a dime.

[mvccd1000]

7. Why not? The "Stupid Motorist" law has turned out ok, hasn't it?

I've certainly seen fewer live news coverage scenes of dramatic helicopter rescues of stupid motorists stranded in flowing washes since that law was passed, even though we now have twice as many people in the valley as we did when it was enacted.

Any reason to think a similar law regarding fireworks would fizzle?

[saras]

9. I like them

I've got to admit it's one thing I've always admired about America - that we're the sort of country that gives explosives to small children to celebrate not only our right, but our duty to overthrow an oppressive government by violence when necessary.

But I guess that for that metaphor to still hold up, I'd have to give my kids tactical nukes and cruise missiles.

[mvccd1000]

10. ??

In all of my decades of 4th of July celebrations, I never knew that's what we were celebrating. Where on earth (or elsewhere) are you from that you learned that?!?

[saras]

11. The Soviet of Washingon

Ever heard the Star-Spangled Banner? The rockets' red glare? The bombs bursting in air? That's what fireworks represented.

[mvccd1000]

15. So far, so good...

Few fireworks issues reported to emergency crews over New Year's
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/local/article_efcaba26-1847-11e0-8787-001cc4c002e0.html

East Valley emergency crews report they saw very little, if any, fireworks-related issues over the holiday weekend.

Gilbert Hospital, as well as the Banner hospitals in the East Valley, say there were no fireworks-related emergency room visits.

In Mesa, a juvenile suffered a minor burn to the hand when trying to remove burning fireworks from a tree, according to the Mesa Fire Department.

A small fire was caused by the improper disposal of fireworks in a trash can, and juveniles playing with fireworks caused a 200-square-foot fire in a field in separate incidents, said Mesa Fire spokesman Forrest Smith.

Among the Mesa, Gilbert, Apache Junction and Queen Creek fire departments, that was the only medical call, Smith said.

Obviously we're not in peak fire season, but so far it seems as though the furor over fireworks has fizzled out.

[lonestarnot]

16. Can buy that shit, but can't set them off legally in Phoenix :) !