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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:00 PM
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What Makes Marin County So Blue?
The richest per capita income county in the nation and it votes Democrat? I knew that Marin was very blue, but I didn't know it was so affluent.


73-26% for Kerry!

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/CA/P/00/county.000.html#06041
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:01 PM
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1. Montgomery County Maryland
one of the richest counties in the US is 66% percent Dem
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:33 PM
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14. I have to say that
I spent the first 26 years of my life in Alabama, then spent 7 years in Massachusetts (which I think was blue because there were so many Irish immigrants), then spent 28 years in Montgomery County (where there were many Jewish residents who remembered the discrimination they experienced when they first moved to the DC area in the FDR years), and I am now in a part of California that is majority blue.

I live near an Assembly of God college and I used to see Pray for our President stickers. I also notice that a lot of white blue- collar people here are for Bush. I think these people think (erroneously) that Bush will protect them from the influx of Mexican immigrants who will work for very little money and thus bring down their wages. I have also seen Viva Bush stickers on cars of 2 Mexicans who run small cafes. My guess is that they are pro-Bush because they think Bush is for small business (wrong again) and because they are against abortion.

I think my comfortably middle-class relatives in Alabama are for Bush because they think he is "one of them," a white man who has moral values (wrong yet again). I have a friend here in California with poor Alabama relatives who are for Bush because their preacher tells them that they should trust in God (and Bush).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:04 PM
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2. Cause they're smart and they care
about the country.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:11 PM
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3. If There Were More People Like The People
of Marin County, CA... this country would be a lot better off.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:21 PM
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12. Oh yeah! Too bad ..about 1/2
the Country is the polar opposite of Marin County.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:12 PM
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4. Exactly
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 07:16 PM by TomInTib
In the town I live in (Tiburon, pop. 5,000) and in Mill Valley there are small, peaceful demonstrations every weekend. In Mill Valley the events are staged by a Senior Citizen's center.
Just because we are small communities of by-and-large well-off citizens does not mean we have a lack of conscience.

Maybe we (the citizens of Marin) should just buy the effing country. After all, it has already been done at least once.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:20 PM
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10. Welcome to DU!
I wish I lived in a place like that!
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FrannyD Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 01:58 PM
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18. So do I
I love Marin. I can't afford it. But at least I live in the Bay area, It's way better than Jersey, where I hail from.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:14 PM
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5. Well educated, well traveled, agnostic.
Martha's Vineyard is also very wealthy -- and very blue.



Wealth is not the factor with the strongest correlation to GOP voting. It's religious fervor.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:18 PM
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15. that's a fact
and the smartest comment I've heard all day.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/654155
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:16 PM
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6. Environment, social issues, and feminism
Environment: Marin was strongly Republican 20 to 30 years ago. Most fit into the moderate Republican party in California that pushed and enacted many strong environmental measures. At that time, Marin chose to declare most of the undeveloped hills as open space. This pitted the populace against the developers and many business interests supporting the Republican party. This county strongly supports environmental protection and it's almost impossible for new developments to occur in Marin. Most here take walks in the open space.


Feminism: Many of the older women participated in the 60s and 70s consciousness raising. Few can live in Marin without both partners working.

Education: Many move to Marin for the schools. Most, if not all, have additional tax assessments to help the schools. The anti-tax rhetoric does not play that well here. Add into that the many who went to state schools and got well-paying jobs because of that relatively inexpensive education.

Religion: The county has a Buddhist retreat center, a large Jewish Synagogue and community center, a Hindu retreat, a mospue and many small churches. Weekly religious attendance is very low.

Social Issues: It's strongly gay-rights, pro-choice, and for tolerance.
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nikraye Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:16 PM
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7. High lev of education and former hippie-ites
Many of Berkeley's professors live in Marin. Also, Marin is where alot of the flower children and hippies from the 60s settled in to grow up and raise their kids. Very progressive, educated, and culturally aware populous.
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tmooses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:17 PM
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8. I grew up in Marin. It used to be Republican. Became more and more
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 07:17 PM by tmooses
Democratic as more SF'ers moved there . We were not rich (my Dad was union organizer and worked in a steel mill in SF -when there were steel mills there!) and most of the families were either working class or professional. That was over 40 years ago-now it doesn't resemble what I recall, but it is very highly educated and Democratic. I remember Barbara Boxer coming to my front door when she was running for county board of Supervisors. My mom had just made some cookies and gave them to her and invited her in. Never thought she would be where she is today.
I'm living in an area of Oregon now that reminds me more of Marin in the 60's or 70's.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:18 PM
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9. A lot of home grown dope up there too I think...
Many folks want to be left alone doing that and like Dems better in that regard I think...
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:20 PM
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11. That's on the coast
There's several small towns that are very independent. Most of the population lives in suburbs about 20 miles from the coast.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:21 PM
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13. Reaction to Michael Savage living there? n/t
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 01:15 AM
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16. Santa Cruz county was at 73%, too
:D
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:47 AM
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17. Bush,s speech 6/28/05
In Deed ,Good morning. I am an old friend of yours that learned a great deal while living in California,and I wrote a summation of Bush,s speech ,I would like to share it with you all. Thankyou, In Deed, The president did manage to get a point across. No time line,mixed signals ,or they will think to wait us out,and on the other hand we will not be trusted. (Abandonment) Also a thing called mass killing as a result of abandonment. So he summed it up there. Should we be there ,no I think not. But we are there so we must do the right thing. To understand terrorism regards to the middle east as a whole,we must understand the middle eastern country's. The united Arab republic. I am only going one way with this one. Take a look at the map, the Middle East. The united Arab countries. Psychological war fare and terrorism across the middle east and the world. The middle east (no mads) born at point a. and residing at some point b. One thing in common ,one religion ,same belief. A belief that America is some kind of evil empire. A religion that teaches from the beginning of understanding ,that it is not of this life that matters,but the next only. Now how many countries are there in the Middle East? And how much of that in space does Iraq take up? Compare Road Island to america north america and you may see a kind of comparison. So you see it,s a very very big world. Spreading freedom democracy ,a very,very,very big world. Have you ever spotted mile markers on the old interstate highway?Would you compare one of those to a rather large imprint ,if you know what I mean? The thing of it is ,we are at war and we just must go along with what ever is that plan . Though at the same time the President really did not have anything positive to say ,or much at all really. So than let me make this perfectly clear,The President said at a point in his speech ,that we must put 911 behind us,We must get on with it, get passed it.We are not a nation of people that are hiding under our beds over it.Later on in his speech he goes on to remind us of it repeatedly right to his closing words. So let me just reiterate further to sum up all George Bush said in his speech. 1,2,3,4, (Do a little tap dance ,shuffle over to the right, Got ya covered, nine ten no problem ,sha do da do Thats It.) Just say no to that. Those Republicans really have a serious problem there. For instance in the state of Washington the republic ian big cheese say he or they will continue to look for felon voters, which by the by rather up set their rising stars bidd to over turn the governors election, but at the same time he projected into the next election to side step that in their problem. No question about who won, through the question remaining here now is just how did those Republicans get so close??? Sliding numbers. Thank you and good afternoon. your friend in deed Desk Jet of Washington State.
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