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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:44 PM
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Movement under way in California to ban divorce
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 07:46 PM by Bozita
Source: AP

Last Updated: November 30. 2009 4:42PM
Movement under way in California to ban divorce
Judy Lin / Associated Press


Sacramento, Calif. -- Til death do us part? The vow would really hold true in California if a Sacramento Web designer gets his way.

In a movement that seems ripped from the pages of Comedy Central writers, John Marcotte wants to put a measure on the ballot next year to ban divorce in California.

The effort is meant to be a satirical statement after California voters outlawed gay marriage in 2008, largely on the argument that a ban is needed to protect the sanctity of traditional marriage. If that's the case, then Marcotte reasons voters should have no problem banning divorce.

"Since California has decided to protect traditional marriage, I think it would be hypocritical of us not to sacrifice some of our own rights to protect traditional marriage even more," the 38-year-old married father of two said.

Read more: http://www.detnews.com/article/20091130/NATION/911300419/1361/Movement-under-way-in-California-to-ban-divorce



This is gonna be good!

Mormon moolah should soon be on the way.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:48 PM
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1. I'll sign that petition!
what the hell. I've been married nearly 35 years and neither one of us is getting out alive. So I think everyone else should live by our rules. That's the way it works.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:52 PM
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2. Go for it
And if some Californians are inconvenienced by it, tough shit. You have "inconvenienced" me by forbidding me to marry the person I love.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:39 AM
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23. apparently a law recently passed in texas banned all marriage. :) I
love intellectuals.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:53 PM
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3. Good.
Let's stick up for all marriages.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:55 PM
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4. Well, if it asses, people will have a reason to go to Vegas again...
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:57 PM
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5. Never gonna happen. n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:57 PM
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6. Sure. We Don't Have Enough Murder/Suicides
Absolutely ridiculous. Divorce was always an option---if you could afford it.

There Never was a "golden age" of marriage--unless you count those periods where either the women died young in childbirth, or the men in wars, industrial accidents, or due to strokes and heart attacks....
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:31 PM
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13. The "golden age" to many Christians was...
probably before women were considered equal and they did what there husbands said. They stayed home and made babies. I can't stand it when I listen to the preachers on TV say the downfall of America is women in the workplace.

BTW: I did not say "all" Christians...However, the Bible is clear even the new test makes it clear what a women's role is.

I say HELL YES on banning all divorce! Either the Christians are for protecting marriage or they are just for being evil to certain groups of people that the Bible says should be killed.
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:02 PM
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7. What kind of hypocrite would claim to support marriage and also legal divorce?
Oh, right.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:11 PM
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8. A lot of religious conservatives would probably vote for it
Along with the satirical jokesters on the Left.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:20 PM
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10. True, and it might just pass with a clusterfrak like that behind it
I hope the ones backing this are factoring in the very real possibility that it might not just be a statement--it might pass.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:18 PM
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9. Initiative and referendum are now proven to be California's downfall.
and will continue to be until the leadership in both parties decide to abolish it for the good of the state.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:23 PM
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11. Californians will NEVER vote for that. Think of Liz Taylor.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:48 PM
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17. They voted for Prop 8! Think Rock Hudson.
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greennina Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:00 PM
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19. Liz Taylor would be a reason to vote for it!
She's proven herself a liar many times over. People like her are why marriage should be abolished completely. It serves no purpose when no one these days take it seriously.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:28 PM
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12. Another reason to
Not get Married in the first place...

How appropriate...

the greatest threat to Marriage is Divorce.
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SutaUvaca Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:32 PM
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14. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
On second thought, be careful what you ask for....
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:37 PM
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15. Well,
This will be interesting........
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:48 PM
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16. LOL! ..Hope it takes off!
Nuttin like preserving the sanctity of marriage...
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:58 PM
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18. let's take it all the way...
since this is all about sex, and only the "right" kind of sex...

EVERYONE must remain a virgin, until married, no matter the age. (talk about not being a virgin double standards, female = whore, male = stud.) you never marry? you die a virgin.

sex before marriage should be punishable.

sex shall only take place within the confines of marriage, with each other.

adultery should be punishable.

i'm sure we could come up with some punishment that would fit the crimes.

there shall be no birth control, since "marriage" is all about the children of said marriage.

between the people who are fed up with others voting on their rights, and the idiots who would actually want this, there should be no problem getting it on the ballot.

once it is on the ballot, only a yes or no vote.

if they vote to put the ban in place, let's watch the shit hit the fan.

if they vote to NOT put the ban in place, it would be obvious grounds for appeal to the supreme court based on blatant discrimination making some more equal than others.

or....

how about a referendum stating that human or civil rights should not be put up to a popular vote... see if that could work.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:00 PM
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20. Be careful what you wish for...
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:50 PM
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21. "ripped from the pages of Comedy Central writers" Bingo!
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 11:50 PM by alp227
I thought this kind of rhetoric was limited to The Colbert Report! What if it's revealed that the author of this proposition is phony...really a liberal who watches Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert every night after work?

But if he's for real, I guess he's tired of hearing about all the Hollywood types who can't decide who's the right partner, thus inflating the divorce statistics of the state. Thus, he thinks that banning both same-sex marriage and legalized divorce = more sanctimonious family values?

Well, if you really wanna uphold family values shouldn't Republicans support more state action against domestic violence too? Think about it: in 1994 all of the US Senators who voted No on the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act were...the Family Values Party...aka the Republican Party! (2 Democrats also voted No: Shelby and Feingold. All the other Dems voted Yes.) That Act contains the Violence Against Women Act, which expanded federal intervention in preventing that very action that perpetuates divorce.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 02:10 AM
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22. What will all those unemployed divorce attorneys do?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:58 PM
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24. Make em defense attorneys for married couples indicted of domestic violence
Because without divorce, some couples who've lost love just will fight all the time and annoy the neighbors, heh heh?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:54 PM
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25. WELL GUESS WHAT? MARCOTTE IS A DEMOCRAT...SOMETHING NOT SAID IN THE EXCERPT.
He was mentioned by Keith Olbermann on MSNBC's "Countdown" during his "World's Best Persons" segment for giving supporters of Proposition 8 their "comeuppance in California."

Marcotte, who is Catholic and voted against Proposition 8, views himself as an accidental activist. A registered Democrat, he led a "ban divorce" rally recently at the state Capitol in Sacramento to launch his effort and was pleasantly surprised at the turnout. About 50 people showed up, some holding signs that read, "You too can vote to take away civil rights from someone."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/11/30/national/a111733S84.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea#ixzz0YUKnCrMM


I guess no one else even bothered to READ the article but rather just skimmed over this forum clip instead.
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