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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:22 PM
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Why does Colorada Dem-one of two Hispanic Senators-OK Roberts Civil Rights
Record? Is Salazar pretending that he does not know that Roberts has been criticized for his civil rights record?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-25-roberts_x.htm
Roberts has solid support as final debate begins
By Kathy Kiely, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — John Roberts appears to have at least 64 votes, a clear Senate majority, for confirmation as the nation's next chief justice after Sen. Ken Salazar, a Colorado Democrat, announced Sunday that he will back President Bush's nominee.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:24 PM
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1. Ken Salazar is from the Joe Lieberman wing of the Party
A DINO in other words.
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ThumperDumper Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:56 PM
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4. Wow...
I was just saying that last night.
It's starting to look a lot like we can't depend on Salazar.

Shouldn't we be able to count on a Dem to vote our side of the issues? It's not like this was something IMPORTANT or anything...

What a bum.

.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:58 AM
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18. I don't have to say I told you so.
I didn't support Salazar because I was *afraid* this shit was going to happen. I supported Mike Miles and still do.

As you can see, this is the result of the state party's stupidity on ignoring Mike Mile's grassroots hardwork and propping up an AG that would have been a better Governor than a Senator, IMHO.

And yes, Mike Miles would have defeated Coors, and would be the *original* Paul Hackett.

Hawkeye-X
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:31 PM
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2. Salazar is a horrid disappointment.
He has basically been DLC through and through. There are days I wonder if he really meant to run as a Repuke.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:43 PM
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3. I regret putting his sign in my yard last summer
& sending him money.

The only thing I think he has voted Dem on is ANWAR. Everything else has been repuke/DLC.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:42 PM
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5. Don't beat yourself up over it.
What are you supposed to do when they lie to you? Just keep writing and phoning his office. I have no connection to CO politicians except that Salazar and I happen to be alums of the same college. That doesn't count for much when I want to vent my rage at him.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:42 PM
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6. Deleted unexpected double post.
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 06:43 PM by AllyCat
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:39 PM
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7. he's not a dissappointment
he's what he ran as - a centrist...

would you rather have had Coors?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:37 PM
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8. For once, I agree, our strategy worked
We managed to win one election that year (Salazar over Coors) where the "Yeah, but look at the other guy!" strategy paid off. :)

I'd still like to see a little more leftishness to the guy ... more like his brother, maybe.
But yeah, he's no Coors. Even the Republicans didn't buy that guy.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:28 PM
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10. we need to show more overall strength in the state
if we can keep the Statehouse and add a governor...

take CO7 and put pressure on some other races...

Salazar will come around (I hope).

The real trick will be electing Udall to the Senate. I could live with Salazar a lot better if Udall got in...
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:09 PM
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9. I'll never cast
another vote for Salazar. :spank:
I hope a good Dem challenges him in the primaries.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:30 PM
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11. and if that good Dem gets his ass handed to him in the general election
what will you have gained?

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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:05 AM
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12. I haven't gained anything
with Salazar so I guess it would be a draw.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:40 AM
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13. that's simply not true
you're saying that there's no difference between Salazar and a Republican who would be elected instead.

That's nonsense.
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:51 AM
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14. I sorry I can't
compromise on torture. Salazar has shown he has no problem supporting torturers. The man is scum in my book. Nothing will change my mind. NOTHING!
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:47 PM
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15. I wish I could be as pure and moral as you
must be nice


an inflexible worldview is a conservative worldview


think about it while you're sitting up there in your ivory tower....
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:13 PM
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16. I don't think it's
wrong to be inflexible when it come to civil rights. By supporting Gonzales and Roberts, Salazar has shown his willingness to compromise on constitutional protections and civil rights. I won't be blinded by the D after his name. If that's a conservative worldview, oh well.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:37 PM
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17. We really don't know how Roberts will turn out.
I guess it depends on who he thinks he is working for. And I think voting for someone when so little is known publicly about him except that he is "brilliant" is pretty risky.

But, I'm not going to ditch Salazar for a Republican. I'm withholding judgment on Roberts. And Salazar has always been conservative. I'm just hoping for progressive. The politics are so dysfunctional right now, it's hard to second guess people. But I do think Salazar has more integrity than most of the people on the Republican side of the aisle put together.
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