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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:44 AM
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Colorado still apparently hates gay people
and pot smokers

and prefers having a couple of embarassing RW wack jobs in Congress

at least the minimum wage amendment passed

and the state results were good.


I'm proud of my county, Jeffco. When I first moved here, it was a reactionary RW-faux-libertarian hotbed. (It IS, after all, the home of the Independence Institute, the most radically fascist "think tank" around.) But yesterday, my area went 100% blue for all the state and national races.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:47 AM
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1. and Coors beer sucks too
:hide:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:54 AM
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3. I didn't know there was a vote on beer!
CMU!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:00 PM
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4. brewed by fascists
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:04 PM
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5. Fat Tire's far better.
New Belgium Brewery's the Anti-Coors. And they hosted a Paccione rally.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:14 PM
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7. Colorado has no shortage of good beer
:toast:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:48 AM
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2. I'm very sorry. This happened to us in TX last year & I was so ashamed.
Amazing what HATEFUL BIGOTS people can turn out to be in the privacy of a voting booth.

My sincere sympathies / empathies.


:hug:
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:10 PM
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6. We tried to fire Musgrave.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 12:16 PM by meldroc
We tried. I personally gave my money, my time, my blood, sweat and tears to the Paccione campaign so we could get a decent representative in Congress. So did quite a few people in Fort Collins and the 4th District. But I guess * and Musgrave were able to get the bible thumpers out of the woodwork. Now we're stuck with Musgrave for two more years. :mad:

A lot of the problem is that the 4th District is pretty badly gerrymandered - it takes the northern part of the Front Range including Fort Collins, Loveland, Greeley and Longmont, and then joins them at the hip with the entire rural eastern third of the state, so the result is that the Front Rangers get ignored, while Musgrave spends all her time in the district in hick towns like Sterling and Fort Morgan.



I'd be happier if we split this district - the Eastern Colorado bible thumpers can have their homophobic idiot, just so long as blue cities like Fort Collins can have somebody that represents them.

And I'm especially unhappy that the "marriage protection" amendment passed, while the referendum on giving spousal benefits to same-sex couples failed. :mad: Half this fucking state needs remedial civil-rights classes!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:25 PM
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8. that district is infested with
religiously insane wack jobs

Coloradans are surprisingly reactionary
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:00 PM
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9. What effect did the voting problems in Denver have on some of that?
I don't know what the margins were, and I also have no idea how many Denverites would have voted but were prevented from doing so by the computer snafu, but I wonder if they would have changed the outcomes of the gay-marriage, domestic partnership, and marijuana amendments/initiatives.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:24 PM
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10. the gay marriage ban won big
and the domestic partnership referendum lost big

I doubt Denver problems had any significant effect

marijuana lost even bigger.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:21 PM
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13. Sigh
I was hoping to find some way to excuse Coloradans as a whole for those votes.
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DonMeyer Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 05:51 PM
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11. WTF!
I still don't understand how we can win most state offices and lose on the homosexual rights issues.

Too many DINO's?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:53 PM
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18. most Coloradans hate gay people
I think that's the reason.

:shrug:
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:20 PM
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12. Amendment 2 (from 1992) and Ref I had nearly the same percentages.
53.4% to 46.6%. For Amend 2 (passed)
53.2% to 46.8% for Ref. I (failed)

Coloradoans will recall the past 20 years and see that sometimes our state legislature has really been goofy. One Republican quit because he litterally had a vision from God. These people were nuts and they're still with us. Luckily, these people no longer have power. Given that the deck was stacked against Dems, this is a major accomplishment.

Just look at the 3 stooges: Musgrave, Lamborn & Tancredo. What a group of loosers!

Sources
2006 Ref. I results:
http://elections.cbslocal.com/cbs/kcnc/20061107/race324.shtml

Amendment 2 percentages:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_laws7.htm
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:07 PM
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14. And a Republican for Secy of State
Pfui.

I'm very disappointed with the negativity for Ref I. Danny Newsom (sp?) was on Jay Marvin's show this morning. She fought hard to get it passed. She said that the issue would be decided by the court. Civil rights should never be voted on by the people. If that were the case, she and her husband would not be allowed to marry in some states.

It's not over by a long shot.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:15 PM
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24. Not so fast. Gordon hasn't conceded, and votes are still being counted.
Especially in Denver. Keep your fingers crossed.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/elections/article/0,2808,DRMN_24736_5136179,00.html

By midafternoon Friday, an estimated 25,000 ballots still had to be counted, and election officials said the count could continue into today. In addition, there are at least 6,000 provisional ballots in Denver and Boulder to be counted, Gordon said.

The most recent statewide -results have Coffman leading Gordon by 31,940 votes.

"There are more votes that haven't been counted than the difference between us," Gordon said. "I want to see all the votes counted and we'll see who won."

Coffman, state treasurer, said the gap would likely narrow, but "I think I will win."
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:31 AM
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15. We turned Broomfield County blue.
And those refs passed here (in our county). Have faith, by 2008 this whole thing will be much bluer.

And I can't stand those boneheads at the Independence Institute. When I see them on channel 6 or 12 I have to change the channel quickly since they make me want to puke.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:56 PM
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20. way to go Broomfiled! IndiInst--they are nazis
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 02:57 PM by leftofthedial
every last one of them

mentally ill
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:48 AM
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16. A California transplanted co-workers said,
"When you live in a progressive pocket like Boulder county, you forget what most of Colorado is really like."

It is shameful. And, I am sooooooo bummed about that hateful Musgrave woman.

I would like to have seen 44 pass too! :smoke:
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Colorado Liberal Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 01:24 PM
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17. Boulder County results
I live in Longmont, and the Boulder County numbers are interesting:

Paccione 14,807 49.9%
Musgrave 12,057 40.6%
Eidsness 2,821 9.5%

(This is pretty much just Longmont, as we are the only part of Boulder County in US-4). I'm afraid that Musgrave's seat may be safe as long as US-4 contains the entire eastern third of the state....

Referendum I

Yes 78,447 68.8%
No 35,550 31.2%

Amendment 43

Yes 38,227 33.5%
No 75,856 66.5%

I'm proud of how Longmont, and Boulder County voted, but how in the hell does the state vote 53-47 against basic partner rights???
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 02:54 PM
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19. gerrymandering protected that repuke seat
maybe now we can break up the repuke bloc
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:23 AM
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21. Damn straight.
I think that Larimer County and Longmont should secede from the 4th district.

Let the eastern plains hicks have their bible thumping idiot, just so long as they don't inflict her on us.
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Codeblue Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 11:58 PM
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22. Grrrrr!
I swear, Musgrave and Tancredo piss me off to no end. I wish I could have voted against them, but I live in Denver. I also voted for marijuana and civil unions. It was really a bummer. It kind reminds me of 04 when the state voted almost overwhelmingly for dems but still went with Bush and some red initiatives. It's quite a paradox and quite vexing.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:03 PM
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25. How is easy
They lied.

They tried to make it out that if people allowed the basic partner rights that it would hurt their pocketbook. Yes, it's a flat-out lie, but you know some of the Ten Commandments are less important than others. So people were allowed the fiction that they were protecting their bank statements, which allowed them to cast their votes the way they did.

I really think this is a short-term setback, and really not nearly the overwhelming anti-gay message that some thought it was.
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hasbro Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:40 AM
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23. I'm hopeful though
If the Haggard scandal snowballs it can weaken the Dobsonite hold on the state.

Since the statehouse is blue the next redistrict will mitgate at least the 4th.

I don't know the population stats but more growth could also change up the districting.
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