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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:55 PM
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ct's house of rep's is currently debating death penalty
hi there

i'm a newbie and i work as a sessional at the ct state legislature and the state house of representatives is currently debating h.b. 6012 that would enact language that would repeal the death penalty in ct.

mike lawlor (state rep of east haven and judiciary committee chair)for prez anyone?

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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:00 PM
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1. Hey there!
The death penalty is state-sponsored murder, plain and simple. It pains me to think my home state may be threatening to bob for corpses in that particular scum-river.

Knowing next to nothing about current CT politics, I hope that CT's sizable liberal constituency can defeat any bill that proposes Death Penalty legislation....Have Shays or Dodd or anyone else made any noises about it?

You and the yard-ape ought to move to Chicago! (I know, grad school and all....)
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:09 PM
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2. yikes! i think i was unclear
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 03:54 PM by cassandra uprising
the bill before the state legislature currently being debated will abolish the death penalty. i'm not sure what the congressional reps think about it all. state gov is an animal all onto itself. i have to sign off for a bit. will be back soon.

i'm sure the congressional reps won't touch it becuase they don't have to.

chicago hmmm... but what will c.s.the t. do in new york all alone?

:toast:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:24 PM
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3. You were supposed to say "yard ape? That's my man!!!"
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:43 PM
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4. sorry sweatheart
i'm shaking. when i was this bill on the 'go list' for the house this morning, i thought , no f-ing way. it's going die on the floor. the fact that they are taking up this vote right now. unreal.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:44 PM
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5. Yeah. I think its great!
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 04:12 PM
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6. it's all up to jodi
as you say

she won't support abolishing the death penalty. i can't help getting all fired up. your dad is such a buzz kill.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 04:17 PM
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7. always has been, always will be
:)
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:16 AM
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8. Mr. Lawlor has been doing a fantastic job.
Glad he is my Rep. He'd get my vote for Congress or Senate without a second thought. =)
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:11 AM
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9. he's the of the most fascinating politicians in ct
do you think he'd ever run for higher office?

he's been in the state legislature for like 15 years. no?
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 01:53 PM
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15. I can only hope he does.
If he does he has my votes for sure. =)
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:13 AM
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10. repeal bill has been denied
http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-deathpenalty0331.artmar31,0,2672291.story?coll=hc-big-headlines-breaking

"The state House of Representatives rejected a proposal Wednesday to abolish the death penalty and spare the lives of serial killer Michael Ross and six others on Connecticut's death row.

By an 89-60 vote, the House defeated a bill that would have made what are now capital crimes punishable by life in prison without possibility of release."

fyi sports fans
:argh:


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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:56 AM
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11. I was disappointed to here this, but not surprised
On the bright side, I don't think this sort of legislation would have even been proposed 10 years ago.
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 01:19 PM
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13. actually...
lawlor mentioned it had been a campaign issue in 1994 and that the house debated the death penalty that session. that's why i started to get my hopes up. i've been looking to find the legislation and i couldn't come up with the goods.

there are so many factors to think about.

a lot of legislators from east of the river kept bringing up mike ross. if they voted to get rid of the penalty, those now on death row would be spared with their lives. so in essence voting for repeal would be political suicide for anyone east of the river.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:42 PM
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18. In the end I also am not surprised
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 12:35 PM
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12. do you have a link to who voted yes & no?
Thanks
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 01:21 PM
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14. here you are
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:53 PM
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16. thanks, looks like my guy voted to keep the death penalty
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 02:56 PM by NewJeffCT
I think my rep is Ted Graziani...

thanks for the post.

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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:54 PM
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20. how to find your state rep
http://cga.ct.gov/maps/townlist.asp

fyi

with the recent redisrticing it's confusing to keep tract of 'who's on first'
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:10 PM
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24. Mine too, Jeff
and he's a dem.

He's gotten a very disappointed e-mail. I hope I get a chance to give him a live ear-full when he's out campaigning next year.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:43 PM
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19. Well, honey, Joe voted no
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:10 PM
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22. i know, i've had that conversation with him
and he's not alone i'm sure, as a legislator who personally opposes the death penalty but would never get re-elected if he voted for the end of capitol punishment.


:thumbsdown:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:16 PM
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23. So is THAT what you were talking about on the ride in this AM?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:56 PM
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17. on another topic
Since you are working with the legislature... is anybody surprised at the sky-high popularity of Rowland's right hand woman, Jodi Rell?
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:05 PM
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21. absolutely not, at least not as far as i can tell
roland's fall has been a long time coming and jodi looks like polly anna in comparison. she's a lot more accessible than he was. she doesn't keep a closed door to her office. she doesn't seem to act like a ceo, which is common in leadership. she had a big role in establishing a select committee on veterans' affairs which is a big crowd pleasing issue. she also supports stem cell research especially insofar as how it will boost the state's economy. not to mention the breast cancer battle.

it'll be interesting to see who the dems come up with to run against her.
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