Carper iss DLC vice chair - he stands with Bush

[kristopher]

I knew his voting record was iffy, but I didn't realize how much he has betrayed his constituency. we might as well haave Lieberman. I'm voting against him next time, if he has no primary challenger, and we all know the chances of that,, then I'm crossing over in the GE. Better to have a Republican we can recognize as such than this POS.

Carper stands with Bush.

[LynneSin]

1. OH FUCK NO

You'd vote for a republican that would help give the majority BACK to the republicans?

I'm pissed at carper as much as you are but I'm not about to fuck with our Supreme Court just because of some bizarro idea that a republican would be a better choice.

Even on Tom Carper's absolutely worst day ever - he's still a better choice than any republican out there - EVEN MIKE CASTLE

Carper is not on any committee that I feel he can do serious damage to this country.

[kristopher]

2. I see your point

Realistically you're right, of course. I just get so pissed off at the way he votes in lockstep with the neocons. That isn't a small thing. How do we get someone progresive in there if we don't identify the occupant of the office for what they are? I mean I don't see the point of having a defacto Republican just because he calls himself a dem. What makes you think he will be worth a shit when it comes to getting a liberal on the court? He has been useless so far.

[LynneSin]

3. I totally agree

In 2006 I just didn't even bother campaigning for anyone in Delaware. We were stuck with Carper as our senator and there were more critical races right over the boarder in Pennsylvania.

There are 2 very critical committees than can both help and hurt the progressive cause and that's the Judiciary and Foreign Affairs. Biden is on both and has been quite affective. Dem leaders I think know better than to put a DLCer on either of those but especially on the Judicary committee. People panicked about Bob Casey Jr, who is admittedly pro-life, running for US senate. I mean geez, this was our best hope to get rid of Rick Santorum and people still were upset he was running. I figured as long as Casey, who has anti-choice ways but nowhere near as harsh as Santorum, wasn't on the Judicary committee he couldn't hurt us.

Oddly enough, Casey has been one of the more progressive dems in DC these past 2 years.

If Delaware had a viable candidate to run against Carper I would be out there 100% supporting the guy. Unfortunately I think Carper would do a Lieberman and run independantly if he lost the primaries. There are no viable state-wide republicans other than Castle (who would never run against Biden or Carper) so Carper knows he could win easily with all-party election.

And as for getting a liberal on the court - well if we keep the Judicary filled with liberals (I think Feinstein is the worst - the rest are pretty safe bets) then we wouldn't have to worry about how the floor vote would go. What we need to do is keep these wack job judges from ever getting out of committee. Of course if we had a Democrat in the White House, even if it was Hillary the more moderate of the two, we would probably get a much better selection of judges to consider in committee.

[Vet31203]

4. Well...

There are many people who side with Bush, but if we are able to get a larger majority and the white house. Hope we all can make this happen

William J Meyers for House 2008