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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 06:54 PM
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WTF, leave it to us to eat our own...
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 06:58 PM by IA_Seth
I just saw this commercial played, paid for by a group called Democratic Courage or something similar:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Democratic_Courage_PAC_Blowing_in_the_Wind.html

It makes me ill. These types of ads have no place in a primary/caucus process. Of course Hillary has to respond to this nonsense (whether directly or indirectly), which will only serve to ramp up the negativity in this race as a whole. ALL of our candidates will suffer from this type of crap.

This ad makes Rudy look good, who benefits from that..other than Rudy?

ON EDIT: Anyone care to speculate on Edwards' ties to this group/ad?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:00 PM
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1. Hey, don't be a hater or I'll get Cornfield on yer ass!
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=DC&last=Hurowitz&first=Glenn

I don't think a $250.00 contribution to Edwards back in June makes Hurowitz a high roller in the Edwards campaign, do you?
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:45 PM
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2. I don't
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 08:48 PM by IA_Seth
It was Edwards' co-founding of the group (I think?) that has led many to make the ties between Hurowitz and Edwards.. but ya know, Edwards doesn't have control of the group now, so I am putting the disgust soley on Hurowitz and Democratic Courage for this.

I just figured with all the Edwards supporters here, it would be a pretty spirited conversation.

No ill will intended!

ON EDIT: I should clarify, I've only read about Edwards' ties to this group through comments on the blog I linked to, and haven't had much of a chance to research the connection. If he is not connected (or if he didn't co-found the group), please PLEASE set me straight.

I probably should have mentioned Edwards until i knew for sure. My bad.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 09:31 AM
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3. Actually the link you posted has a link an initial article about the group
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 09:33 AM by Debi
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1007/Stopping_Hillary_from_the_Left.html

<snip>

Hurowitz and Goldman have both contributed to the campaign of former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, but Hurowitz said their effort is independent of any campaign.

"We have no plans right now to back any particular candidate," Hurowitz said.

As a federal political action committee, Democratic Courage is raising money only in contributions of $5,000 or less. This allows the group to politick more directly than the independent groups known as 527s, which can raise money in unlimited quantities but which have limits on their direct support for candidates.

<snip>

"I'm definitely not a Hillary hater — I think there are other candidates who are better for the progressive movement," Hurowitz said. "Most of the people involved in our PAC will be happy to support her if she does become the nominee."


<snip>

++++++++++++++++

Now, Seth, I'm as cynical as you about a group that shows anti-candidate ads at the same time they say they will support that candidate in the end. AND I'm wary about two people who have contributed to one candidate saying that they REALLY aren't doing for that candidate's benefit. BUT, there just doesn't seem to be any ties to Edwards (now watch, a comparison of Edwards presidential contributors will be a mirror of this group....x(). I know that I'll be set straight by IA DUers who want to take more time to research this than me.

Oh, and it looks like the ads are only web-based at the moment - guess the group isn't getting much $$? :shrug:
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:00 AM
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4. Not only web-based...
I saw it last night on TV, which is what prompted me to post this. Perhaps they haven't made a large buy, but the first I've seen it was last night, just before I posted this.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 03:52 PM
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5. Sorry
x(

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 07:37 PM
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6. Although I haven't seen it since.
These ads just bug the sheeat outta me.
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