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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:24 AM
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Have you seen the Planned Parenthood ads?
There is one that says something like, "For every $1 Iowa spends on pregnancy prevention saves Iowa taxpayers $4.00". And we've been flooded with fliers in the mail by them too.

Well, it seems somebody is taking notice. Action Research polled me yesterday about my opinions on PP, birth control, my state reps and senators, the effectiveness of the advertising etc. So I did a little googling to see if there were any groups out there ticked off about this ad campaign. I couldn't find anything. Any of you heard anything?



I did find this about our good buddy Steve King however:
http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=7FD4EF93-DB49-F51A-8E1B288F49846767

Iowa Congressman Steve King wants to pull the plug on federal funding for Planned Parenthood because of its website aimed at providing sex-oriented information to teens. King, a Republican from Kiron, says he's disturbed by some of the items available which he considers obscene.

King says, "There are clinical drawings that can go on the webpage if that's supposed to be educational and if they're pictures, then I view that as pornographic." He opposes teens having unsupervised access to such materials, saying the organization's website for teen sex information goes too far.

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The president and C.E.O. of Planned Parenthood of Greater Iowa disagrees with Congressman King. Jill June says King's objections to teenwire.com are unfounded.

"Congressman King objects to sexuality education for young people," June says, "we think that it's much better to be sure that young people have information and not stick our head in the sand about what's going on in the world today." She says they're providing medically accurate information about human sexuality and human reproduction, which most people think is a smart thing to do.

June says, "Most people do not find this offensive. Most people find that this is necessary information so that as you grow up and become an adult, the curiosities you have about your body can be accurately addressed. Kids want information about their bodies and we as parents want to be sure that information is accurate." She encourages people to go to the "teenwire" website and judge for themselves.



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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:35 AM
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1. Opinion piece in IC Press Citizen
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 09:36 AM by cyberswede
I glanced at an opinion piece in the PC the other day that said something about PP's "Healthy Families" being a gimmick and that PP really wants women to get pregnant so they can make money - or something vile like that. I didn't actually read the whole piece, as it made me hurl. :)

on edit: the article is archived on the PC website and requires a fee to access, so no link.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:05 AM
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2. That must be the latest meme with them.
They must all subscribe to the same newsletter. I've read that "Planned Parenthood just wants to make more money" crap a couple of times recently.

(Don't tell anyone, but most people I know connected to PP are money-grubbing, selfish, hedonists) ...:banghead:
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:38 PM
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7. Isn't Planned Parenthood ... a ... NONPROFIT?!
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Vet31203 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:06 PM
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3. I agree
I sure is about time we talk about this issue!

Vote Fallon
http://www.equalitygiving.org/
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:31 PM
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4. Ever wonder if King (or many of his ilk) have ever had sex?
I know he has kids, but I have always had the feeling that this is one of those dirty jobs that was beneath him and he hired a contract job firm to take care of it for him.
How do these dumb fucks reproduce anyway?
And how proud are his parents? Have they had the 'talk' with him yet?
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:15 PM
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5. On a related note
Here's a funny post relating rurallib's comment...

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2008/02/zygote-american-communitys-battle.html

We live in a very permissive culture. Due to the influence of Hollywood, feminists, and Luther Vandross, most Americans consider the sex act to be more a form of recreation than a reproductive chore. We no longer have a cultural constraint against engaging in sex more than once every six months or so. Indeed, I've seen research that suggests that many people engage in it as often as two or three times a month. I know it's hard to believe--we certainly don't associate with those kinds of people--but the data support it.

Think about the implications of that for a moment. With so many people having sex that frequently, there is bound to be a certain number of them who are pregnant. That means countless numbers of zygote-Americans are being forced to view the worst kind of pornography, live sex acts.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:15 PM
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6. Jesus' General nails it yet again.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:50 PM
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8. Are you saying King OUTSOURCES that?
:rofl:
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Sophia_Karina Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:49 PM
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9. call me whatever
but I personally was repulsed by these ads (and I am not a pro-lifer). They are clearly targeting low-income women, which amounts to eugenics and population\demographic control. "Choice" and "sex-education" really have very little to do with it.
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:00 PM
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10. That's bull. n/t
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Sophia_Karina Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:13 AM
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11. nope, but your comment is
number one, it's a rude one-liner

number two, look at the ad text and the actual proposed law ... "Iowans, why should you be paying for wellfare queens' pregnancies, while it's easier just to provide them with contraception -- save money, stop poor people from reproducing"

nuff said, will not respond any further
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:31 AM
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12. Figures
Drop an unpopular statement, receive opposition, then refuse to discuss it.

Every year thousands of Iowa women who do not want to have a child become pregnant. Many of those are women who live in areas that do have free clinics or other sliding-scale facilities that will provide contraceptives. Without those necessary health care options, the women -- many of them married or in long-term relationships -- are forced to play numbers games with their own health. Also, if we are to believe the statistics being floated about by anti-choice organizations, for every 1 unplanned pregnancy that results in a child, there are 5 that end in abortion.

It's about preventing unwanted/unplanned pregnancy. It's about providing women the health care they need (that is not limited to just contraception) in order for them to make the best decisions in their own lives. In short, it's about dignity regardless of take-home pay.

"Where, after all, do universal human rights begin? In small places, close to home - so close and so small that they cannot be seen on any map of the world. Yet they are the world of the individual person: the neighborhood he lives in; the school or college he attends; the factory, farm, or office where he works. Such are the places where every man, woman, and child seeks equal justice, equal opportunity, and equal dignity without discrimination. Unless these rights have meaning there, they have little meaning anywhere. Without concerted citizen action to uphold them so close to home, we shall look in vain for progress in the larger world."
~ Eleanor Anna Roosevelt
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:28 PM
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13. Thank you for writing this post.
You've said it all very eloquently.
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HuskiesHowls Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:08 PM
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14. Do people against Planned Parenthood actually KNOW what they do?
Several years ago I was working in the service sector, and I had to do some work in the Planned Parenthood office in Des Moines. As a result, I actually got to SEE what they do there, and how it affects the women that go there.

Their main reason for being, is to provide health care for those who have no other choice. They provided all the services of a regular OB/GYN, and a lot of counseling. This was for low-income people, teens without other options, basically any woman who had a need for health care and couldn't (for whatever reason) go to a private practice doctor.

The staff there, at that time, was comprised of the most caring people I've ever been around, and doing a lot of work with little money. They are to be complimented, and supported.

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