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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:35 AM
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This morning I am getting moved up on teabagger enemy lists
Last week a guy sent this letter in to the Dubuque paper which was full of Beck talking points on social justice;

In the Jan. 16, issue of the Archdiocese of Dubuque's newspaper, The Witness, an article stated that concerned students at Wahlert High School live the social justice teaching by their lives. I also see social justice dialog in the Catholic Church.

My understanding of social justice is that it is a Marxist term defined by Van Jones, who was an adviser to President Obama, as "equal outcome," accomplished by government wealth redistribution and government controlling policy to accomplish this end.

In my opinion, this Marxist idea is contrary to God's creation as He created man with different talents resulting in different outcomes. I don't think we will all be judged as equal, no matter what the government does to or for us.

The Constitution does not suggest that the talented, ambitious individual has to share his talent with the welfare recipient who uses his or her talent to milk the system and is content in doing so.


So I sent a response in right after that, which got published this morning;

]Social justice has been around for a very long time. One need only read passages like Matthew 25 in which Christ states that whatever we do for the least of us we do for him to understand where he stood on the issue.

Luigi Taparelli, an Italian Jesuit, was the man who coined the term "social justice" in the 1840s, and much of his work was based on the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas.

One of Taparelli's students was a man named Vincenzo Pecci, who would later become Pope Leo XIII, and would issue the encyclical Rerum Novarum -- another foundation of social justice which, among other things, called for a living wage and said that society should be based upon cooperation instead of competition.

Forty years later, Pope Pius XI issued Quadragesimo Anno in which he put forth that social justice is a personal virtue. And that's just a really brief Catholic primer -- many other religious traditions, including Judaism, Islam and many different branches of Protestant Christianity, also have strong social justice foundations.


It makes my day since it means that right now the teabaggers are moving me up on their enemy lists.

:D
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:03 PM
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1. Great response.
But doesn't it feel a little like banging your head against the wall with some of these people? :banghead: Some of the comments are just plain crazy.


Hopefully you do get through to some of the more reasonable readers out there though. :thumbsup: Good job.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 06:10 PM
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2. The author of the original letter called the house this morning
Didn't leave a message though. I don't feel like calling him back to find out what he wanted, which was probably to spout more Beck/Faux News talking points.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 07:49 PM
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3. Called your house?
Good grief.

Has that happened before? I'd be a little concerned. They aren't exactly a stable bunch. :yoiks:
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:35 PM
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4. Yeah, and he just called again at 6:30.
My phone has a block feature that allows me to block people, I put him on my block list after the first call. So when he called again he just got blocked, it didn't ring in here, the phone just noted that he called.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:38 PM
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5. Well maybe he just wants to have a nice rational discussion about theology and governance
over a warm cup of coffee. :sarcasm:
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:20 PM
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6. I sent a message to the TH...
...telling them that I wish to Christ they wouldn't publish addresses since it's pretty easy for the teabag element to find phone numbers or where the house is located.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:59 AM
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7. I'm sure he just wants to correct your factual errors.
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 11:00 AM by emulatorloo
After all, he is a History student at Glenn Beck University, so he would know.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:49 PM
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8. "social justice is that it is a Marxist term defined by Van Jones"
That is simply one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
One of the tactics for the fascist right is to confuse, distort and simply rewrite history so that it menas exactly what they want.
Amazes me that people like that can even get dressed.
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