These RW nuts are really creeping me out.

[atommom]

Please tell me we have enough sane people in our state to offset their lunacy. This is the head of our state board of education:

During a question-and-answer period to a mostly receptive audience of church-going social conservatives fed up with evolution, Abrams said one couldn’t believe in the Bible and evolution. You must believe one or the other.

“At some point in time, if you compare evolution and the Bible, you have to decide which one you believe,” Abrams said. “That’s the bottom line.”

Abrams was introduced by fellow conservative board member Iris Van Meter, of Thayer, who urged the crowd to pray for the conservative board members.

Van Meter said the audience could pray for other board members, too, but she emphasized, “Would you pray for six of the conservative members that God will use us to see some life-changing things happen for the children of the state of Kansas.”

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/sep/24/official_its_evolution_or_bible_not_both/?evolution

When they're preaching to the choir, they're certainly more honest about their agenda.

[HannibalBarca]

1. .....

..."fed up with evolution"????!!!!!, wtf???, Hell lets just go back to burning witches and heretics. What is happening to the world?

[atommom]

2. They're proud and self-righteous about their ignorance.

And you're right, that's not far from the "burning witches and heretics" mindset.

[ewagner]

3. Sounds like somebody

either one of the politicians or or ministers, whipped them up into a religious frenzy before the meeting.

That's manipulation.

And it's dangerous.

[_Winston_Smith_101]

4. Religious kookburgers

A bunch of religious kookburgers who want to seize control of the government and march us all to Church on Sunday!

[smoogatz]

5. Kansas is SO screwed.

How'd y'all let these fundie nutcakes get elected in the first place?

[atommom]

6. Too many sane people ignored the BOE races, while too many

of the RW types mobilized to vote them in. They didn't unmask themselves to the general public until they were in office. It's the same thing that happened the last time we had a majority of loonies on the BOE (in 1999). Those people were voted out at the next election, but then everyone apparently went back to sleep. :shrug:

The moral of the story: Watch your school board elections!!!

[smoogatz]

8. It's the rad-right election strategy across the board

Run as "moderate conservatives," govern as radical fundie/neo-con freaks. The moral of the story: you can't trust anyone who claims to be a moderate conservative. There is no such thing.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Yes, Rad-Right strategy, But don't play their game

Don't buy into the strategy of ghettoizing labels. You know there are moderate liberals. You know that there are liberals who are not flaming pink socialists. So don't play the Reich Wing think tank strategy of ghettozing labels and polarizing the populace.

[smoogatz]

19. The only moderate conservatives in government these days are the DLC

and their "New Democrat" counterparts in the House. There aren't any in the Republican party. And I think the populace is already pretty polarized, thank you very much.

[MuseRider]

16. True

but did you ever have a more difficult time finding out what the BOE candidates stood for? I looked and looked, called and called and finally ended up voting for anyone who did not mention church in their resume. There was NO way to tell because not one question was ever asked of them about how they felt about those issues. It drove me crazy trying to get the information.

[atommom]

18. I know. It was infuriating ... and made me very suspicious of those

particular candidates. If only more voters had taken the time to investigate.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. There are many religious sects

that see no problem with evolution, and, in fact, support science and scientific research. What I see as disturbing is that this brand of religious fundamentalism is attempting not only to take over government but also their religion as a whole.

[dddem]

9. I don't think they're in Kansas anymore.(exclusively)

At back to school night at my daughter's high school in Massachusetts, the biology teacher was going over the curriculum for the year. Part of what they will discuss is the theory of evolution. A father asked if they would also be discussing alternate theories of creation and I thought "YIKES - They're heeeerrrrre". The teacher tried to explain that he didn't feel it was his position to get into faith based discussions, and the gentleman tried to pursue the discussion. The teacher finally (politely) cut him off saying he stuck to what was in the textbook.
I think it's going to be an interesting year.

[atommom]

10. You're right. They're everywhere.

It's a coordinated effort, so we all need to keep our eyes peeled.

[jackster]

11. not everyone in Kansas is an idiot!

behold - THE CHURCH OF THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER

http://www.venganza.org/

[atommom]

15. You'd be surprised at how many of us *aren't*!

:hi:

[jackster]

12. OH YEAH

I almost forgot - Florida's new head of schools is someone either fired or forced out in Minnesota I think for pushing intelligent design. Jeb is so proud of her!

Yeah, I live in Massachusetts and I've noticed that are even some of those nuts here - everywhere we must stay vigilant so that these regressive knuckledraggers DO NOT GET APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SCHOOL BOARDS!

[opihimoimoi]

14. Its all Pat Robertsons Fault..... he started this shit years a go and its

taken root.

[mcscajun]

17. There's an old saying...

"The Lord works in mysterious ways, his wonders to perform."
Now, this line can't be found anywhere in the Bible, but you'll hear it from the mouths of true believers and from religious extremists.

So how is it, if they're willing to believe that line, they cannot believe that their god might have chosen the complex process of evolution to achieve certain desired ends? Must they reduce their own god's workings to only those simplistic processes easily encompassed in the most ignorant mind? What a small god this must of necessity be.

Required disclaimer: I'm a collapsed Catholic (who spent a fair amount of free time as a child actually reading the Bible out of sheer curiosity), one time atheist, generally agnostic, part-time pagan, ask-me-next-week-what-I-believe-in-IST. I'm against organized religion generally; not against religious (or more properly, spiritual) people. I count the latter among my friends.

=====================================================
Just for the record, I've posted this here before. :)

[ComerPerro]

20. "Fed up with Evolution"?

:wtf:

Like they are a group of adults talking about all the "shennagins" that kids are spreading with their "evilution"? Or as though it were a recent trend?

I say again:

:wtf:

[atommom]

21. Them damn kids just won't stop evolvin.' In MY day, we were

ignorant and ill-adapted, and we LIKED it!

(Where's the Grouchy Old Woman smiley?)

[ComerPerro]

22. After walking uphill to school in the snow, we were happy to learn

about God and the Bible, and the miracle of creation. In those days, folks didn't want to waste their time with no scientific mumbo-jumbo nonsense. Those people were exposed as what they were: sinners, who turned their backs on God.

Those were the good old days.

We didn't need science and "progress" then, and we don't need it now.

Now excuse me while I answer this incoming call on my cell phone, surf the interent to purchase IMAX tickets online with my debit card, and then drive off in my automobile and crank up the air conditioning.

[beyurslf]

23. I thought I remembered a little blurb about there being no religious test

public office in this country. Seems like it was on some old piece of paper scribbled out a couple centuries ago by some guys I can't remember. I guess it doesn't matter. What could those old losers know anyway! :)