Creation, evolution back on agenda

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Posted on Sat, Nov. 06, 2004


Creation, evolution back on agenda

The state school board prepares to begin considering guidelines for teaching religion in Kansas public schools.

BY JOSH FUNK

The Wichita Eagle


One of the opening skirmishes in the State Board of Education's battle over whether science standards should require creation to be taught alongside evolution will be held next week.


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"I've been motivated by a deep-seated concern that people who want to have religion covered in school have gone about it in the wrong way by trying to get it into science standards," Wagnon said.

As a history professor at Washburn University, Wagnon said he often talks about religion in his American history classes.

If religion is going to be taught in public schools, Wagnon said, it should happen in social studies or a comparative religion class. In his view, the theory of intelligent design belongs in theology class, not science class, he said.

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The last time conservatives controlled the board, in 1999, Kansas endured ridicule nationwide when the board voted to de-emphasize Darwin's theory of evolution in science classes.



Voters gave moderates a 6-4 edge in the 2000 election, and the 2002 election left the board with the current 5-5 split. Primary election victories by Abrams and Kathy Martin of Clay Center this year gave conservatives a 6-4 majority.


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http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/living/education/10114099.htm

[DELUSIONAL]

1. Christian mythology -- bet they don't give equal time to

other creation mythology.

So are they going to give the talking snake version with naked people -- with the woman coming from Adam's rib. And oh yes what about all that incest -- how are they going to explain brothers and sisters "mating"? Oh and why not father/daughter couplings? Or son/mother?

We are going frickin backward in time.

Shoving mythology (and calling it science) down the throats of kids.

This nation is going to hell in a hand-basket -- we are going to be so far behind all other 1st world nations that we won't even be a 3rd world nation in terms of science knowledge of our students.

Dumb ass fundies.

[GoBlue]

2. Scientists who believe in God

Might want to consider promoting the notion that evolution is evidence of the execution of God's intelligent and dynamic design for creation. Afterall it is far more elegant than the static abracadabra mechanism of the creationists.

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6. I don't what prevents consideration of that scenerio

other than an alloy of learned righteous indignance to anyone who would question (their version of) God's word and lack of effort.

The lack of effort is evident, for when it comes to other issues, whether driven by a prejudice, circumstance, or even a whim, comes a deployment of masssive rationalization that neccessarily ignores the NT and firmly plants them in the OT. Becoming an OT Christian, but then running back to the NT when it's convenient (esp. politically), and if all is lost, arguing what the literal "Word", literally means.

But it's liberals who have cornered the market on moral equivalence, right?

I had a G Grandfather who, from the phrase "four corners of the earth", forever insisted that the earth was flat, nothing could convince him otherwise and I don't know that his survival into the space age would have swayed him. Another G Grandfather was as firmly against dancing as AG Ashcroft, but that legacy ended with them when my Grandmother didn't enforce the ban on her children. :-)

With a bird's eye view of incredible change, my Grandparents were part of a group that lived from the age of horse and buggy to the moon walk. They never harbored the disdain for science that a growing number of people seem to be. :shrug:

[Crunchy Frog]

3. Let them have it.

There's no faster or more effective way for a country to lose its superpower status than to destroy its own scientific and technological base. And currently, the loss of America's superpower status is the only thing that will save the rest of the world from our rapaciousness.

[RC]

4. Scary thought, but

They will still use science for developing more and 'better' war toys. The rest of the world will not be safer.

[atommom]

5. I wish the religious right would stay out of our state school board...

We were made a laughing-stock a few years ago by the same group of people. But here they are again. :mad:

For more information on what we're up against, check out Kansas Citizens for Science. Their website has some good information.

http://www.kcfs.org/

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7. And then if was found out that a cult wrote the new standards.

That certainly shocked more than a few people to the polls in 2000.


Nice site atommom, thanks for posting it. :hi: