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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:42 PM
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Governor?
Who do you support for to be the Dem nominee for Governor and why?
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:23 PM
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1. Not Steve Henry...
he has WAY too much political baggage that it isn't even funny. I have no clue who else is looking into running, though I have heard Jack Conway's name tossed around. I liked him in 2002 when he ran against Northup, but I wonder if he would be prepared to jump in as governor?
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:28 AM
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2. Names still being floated
Ben Chandler (doubtful - but still hasn't declared one way or other)
Brererton Jones
Greg Stumbo
Gatewood Galbraith
Jody Richards
Charlie Owen
Otis Hensley, Jr.
Steve Henry
Jack Conway
Others?
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:23 PM
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3. Oh, yeah
Dr. Dan Mongiardo - good run against Bunning (or was that Bunning shooting himself in the foot?)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:40 PM
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6. Dr Dan lost because of a whispering campaign about him
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 12:42 PM by alfredo
being gay. He's a good guy but a bit conservative for my liking.


I want Ernesto Scorsone (Lexington) or Mary Lou Marzian (Louisville) to run.

I think Jerry Lundergen will run.

what about Louisville's own Jerry Abramson? Just found out he's not running.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:05 AM
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4. I would like Martha Layne Collins to come back, as the Dem field...
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 02:06 AM by stevietheman
being talked about looks simply lame to me, and there are rumors of an electorally powerful GOP ticket forming around Rogers and Northup.

Before you discount Collins, consider she is 69 and Brereton Jones is 67. If Brereton is being considered, then Martha Layne should be as well. Besides, her administration was far more competent than that of Jones.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 08:23 AM
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5. Has Governor Collins expressed
any interest in running again? I haven't heard her name thrown into the mix at all.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:46 PM
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7. Not that I know of, but...
she did just show up at the well-attended Kentucky Book Fair last Saturday selling a book about her papers and speeches. And she looked very healthy and in running mode. I wondered about the timing.

I personally would like to see a Draft Martha campaign started.
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DumpDavisHogg Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:58 PM
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8. GATEWOOD GALBRAITH!!!
Didn't Gatewood Galbraith already throw his hat into the ring for the Democratic primary?

If he runs, I'm supporting him. The party needs someone to run on a populist platform.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:04 PM
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9. He hasn't filed yet
He, like several others, are waiting to see what Ben Chandler does. People keep saying that Ben isn't running but if that's the case, why hasn't he just come out and said so? The fact that Crit and Jerry Abramason have announced they won't run, seems to indicate to me he is strongly considering it. Stumbo has also said that he will not run, also lending credence to Chandler running. Gatewood definately won't if Ben does.
btw, if you haven't read Gatewood's book, do it. It's a good read. In fact, his basic campaign strategy is to give away 100,000 books to registered Democrats.
Last week, former State Senator Long (Shelbyville) said this was Gatewood's best chance to win the nomination (KET on Kentucky Tonight last week).
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 04:13 PM
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10. Interesting that so many lists/blogs don't mention Gatewood
BluegrassReport.com left Gatewood off their poll last spring, leading to an exchange via email between Gatewood and Mark Nicklaus (BluegrassReport.com), in which Nicklaus apologized for omitting Gatewood, saying how much he respected him. Then Nicklaus did it again a few weeks ago. Nicklaus loves to point out the hipocrites in politics. He should practice what he preaches.
"The Bridge" (a newsletter out of Louisville) also left out Gatewood while including a few "lesser knowns," saying they didn't see Gatewood as a viable candidate.
It's always interesting when he runs though, particularly in debates. While most candidates try to avoid saying anything substantive or being pegged down on issues, Gatewood will flat out state his positions and point out what wimps the other candidates are for refusing to do the same.
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:43 AM
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11. Chandler is confusing me
He said a few weeks ago that he wouldn't run for governor if Democrats took back the House, because he would want to stay in there to make sure they have as solid of a majority as possible, then last week, he said he hasn't decided on whether or not to run for governor.

I'm sure that whatever he decides though will be fine (Chandler is sometimes a little too moderate for me, but in state government, being a moderate isn't QUITE as bad), the only problem is, that if he runs for governor and wins, that seat will likely go back to the Republicans... even scarier is the thought that Fletcher could run to take his old seat back!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:10 PM
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14. Gatewood came to our Change For Kentucky meeting to
say he was running as a Democrat. That was earlier this year.

I'd back Dr Dan. I would love to see Mary Lou Marzian run.
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/hsedistricts/h034/h034.htm

Or her buddy, Ernesto Scorsone

http://senatorscorsone.com/

He's openly gay so that might be a stumbling block for him. Mary Lou is very pro choice, so that might hurt her chances in the general election.
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:10 PM
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37. One here for Gatewood as well.
This is his to win.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:39 AM
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12. I think many notables, particularly the "gang of 39"
or however they're referred to, have leaned on Chandler considerably to run for Governor. Given that so many Democrats want to avoid a "bloody primary," a Chandler candidacy is the only one that can avoid that. Given Henry's statement that he will run no matter what, there would still be a primary but it would definately cut the field down, probably to just Chandler and Henry.
I think Chandler would rather stay in D.C., so he is probably considering this out of the best interest of the party.
Given Fletcher's #s statewide, it's doubtful that he could win back the 6th, though I haven't seen any numbers on him in the 6th. Depends on who the Dems field to run too. Chandler proved that a Dem can win the seat and hold it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:36 PM
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15. He's not running. He's looking a a position on the appropriations
committee. Anyway, it's more fun when you are in the majority.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 07:54 AM
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13. Let the "bloody primary" begin!
With Chandler out, who is in?
Possibility of a Conway/Miller - Miller/Conway ticket?
I would go with Miller in the top spot because of his experience as State Treasurer. I don't think Conway has held public office, has he?
And what about Owen?
Lunsford, in my opinion, is a traitor to the Dem Party for endorsing Fletcher in 2003. How can anyone support this guy? And Worley running with him?
The bad thing is how crowded this field could end up being and how that might effect the outcome.
If Fletcher wins the GOP nomination, can ANY Democrat beat him in Nov. 07?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 07:01 PM
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16. Lunsford? Screw that POS corporatist
Edited on Fri Dec-01-06 07:01 PM by Roland99
I was in attendence for his farewell speech when he stepped down from Vencor.

What an insincere ass.

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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-02-06 10:23 PM
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17. I like Conway...
but then again, you are right about his experience. As far as Lunsford is concerned, I am ashamed to say that I actually supported him when he was running in 2003, clearly Chandler was the better candidate in hindsight (although I did vote for Chandler in the primary since Lunsford dropped out at the last minute)... I would never support Lunsford for anything ever again since he not only behaved like a sore loser when he endorsed Fletcher over Chandler but also for the fact that the Republican that he endorsed turned out to be probably the worst and most destructive governor KY has ever had.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:45 PM
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28. Conway will not run for governor but may
run for Attorney General, depending on what Stumbo does.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:51 PM
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18. Should a criterion for any Dem candidate for Gov be
agreeing to fire Jerry Lundergan as chair of KDP?
Who are the candidates who think he has done a good job?
Who are the candidates that want him replaced?
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:14 AM
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45. THANK YOU
thank god somebody else sees the real problem. jerry lundergan.
hes one of the most corrupt person we could have as our party chair.

hes a criminal and should be fired before someone from the other side decides to go digging for dirt... cause they'll find a mudhole.

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:00 PM
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19. My choices have all opted out.

Now I'm really wondering if they know more than we do about just how stinky things are in Frankfort. Maybe it's an unsolvable mess?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:59 PM
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20. Well, we need someone willing to sacrifice a political career for doing the right thing.
And we need that on a national basis, too.

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demo_not_full Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 01:06 AM
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21. dont know but ...
any Democrat would make a big difference in Kentucky. This place is the same hole it's been for years.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 02:11 PM
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22. Jonathan Miller & Irv Maze filing on tomorrow
Jonathan Miller & Irv Maze will file tomorrow to run for Governor & Lt. Gov. respectively.
Thoughts on this ticket?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 09:16 PM
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23. A state representative told me that
Harold Rogers might run for governor.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 02:52 PM
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24. I've heard that too but
I have to place it firmly in the category of "rumor" at this point. Rogers would be giving up a lot of seniority to take a hit for the G.O.P. Besides the fact that he is one of the biggest money grubbers in D.C., even bigger than Mitch McConnell!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:51 PM
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25. He may find being in the minority not to his liking.
It's going to make bring home the pork more difficult.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:53 PM
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26. Steve Brashear and Dr Dan are in.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:44 PM
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27. Rumor has it
State Sen. David Boswell (d-Owensboro) may run as the Lt. Gov. candidate with Gatewood. Anyone else hearing anything along these lines?

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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:27 AM
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29. Galbraith & Henry file for Governor's race
Gatewood Galbraith (with Mark Wireman, retired Trans. Cabinet employee)
& Steve Henry (with Renee True - PVA of Fayette County) both filed their candidacy papers yesterday in Frankfort.

Don't know anything about Gatewood's running mate. Renee True has a loyal following in Fayette County but don't know how much that will help Henry.
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:56 PM
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30. and now Bruce Lunsford comes in...
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 08:57 PM by LouKYDem
As things stand right now, I'll probably vote for Miller in the primaries, but I don't care who wins the Democratic primary, as long as it isn't Lunsford. Bruce Lunsford had better not win the Democratic primary after the way that he screwed his supporters the last time. In the (unlikely) event that lunsford gets the Democratic nomination, there is no way in hell that I'd vote for him in November.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:08 PM
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31. I'm with you - Miller
Lunsford's a joke. How could any Democrat in their right mind vote for this turkey! Anyone with enough $$$ will make him look like a douche bag.
And Stumb!?! I've never been a fan of his, but I've got to believe that he just shot himself in the foot latching on to this ticket.
Should've ran for AG again where he has some chance of winning.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:20 PM
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32. Lunsford is a POS. He fcked up in the splitting of Vencor and he is such a FAKE.
I remember his farewell address when he left Vencor. He'd talking just fine and then he'd stop and go into his "preacher who's sinned" mode and start "crying" and then 3 seconds later he was back to normal.

I can't believe Stumbo has chosen to be that piece of crap's running mate.

:eyes:

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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:42 AM
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33. If Lunsford were to win the Democratic primary...
then I'd vote Republican (for the first time in my life) for governor in November. And I'm dead serious about that. I can't believe I was duped into supporting him back in the 2003 primary...

One good thing about this is that it really looks like we might be getting Jack Conway as our attorney general (anybody know about any other candidates?) now that Stumbo has decided to attach himself to the losing ticket for governor. Not that I dislike Stumbo, but I think Conway would do a better job.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:43 AM
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34. Don't jump the gun too soon
Unless the General Assembly votes out the 40% rule (primary candidates for governor must garner at least 40% of the vote or there is a run-off in June between the top 2 vote getters), Lunsford, at best, would advance to that run-off because NO WAY will he get 40%. If he managed to get to the run-off, no way would he win that - except maybe against Gatewood.
Also, don't be so quick to declare that you would vote Republican, particularly if Fletcher is the nominee. If it winds up, by some fluke, being Fletcher v. Lunsford, look for someone to run as an independent - the situation would be ripe for it and in that scenario, I would go with the independent because I'm not voting for Fletcher.
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:46 AM
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35. Oh I feel confident that Lunsford is going to lose..
There are way too many good Democratic candidates running that have better name recognition and besides that, even though KY may not have the smartest Democrats in the nation (how else can you explain a majority Democratic state voting for Bush twice? Too many right-wing people calling themselves Democrats in KY, though I don't think that applies to anybody here.), I think they are smart enough to know Lunsford is the wrong choice...

Given the choice of Lunsford vs. Fletcher, I'm honestly not sure who the best candidate would be. At least Fletcher is open about being a right-wing nut, Lunsford hides his behind this facade of being a Democrat. I think more than anything, I'd vote Republican not because I want to vote Republican, but just to make it clear that somebody that is as liberal as I am would honestly rather see a Republican win as opposed to Lunsford just to send a message to Lunsford. Of course an independent candidate would be more attractive than a Republican...

Fortunately, I don't think any of the stuff that I said matters much at all. I have a feeling that either Miller, Beshear, or Henry will be the nominee (at first I was strongly against Henry, but after hearing about Lunsford getting in, I'd be perfectly okay with Henry winning the primary and the general election), and Lunsford will lose... and then whine and endorse whoever the Republican nominee is...
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:51 AM
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36. as a side note...
Has anybody typed in the web address brucelunsford.com? I don't know who registered it or why they did it, but I love the website, it goes directly to a WAVE3 story from 2003 about Lunsford endorsing Fletcher...
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 08:48 AM
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38. The Candidates
Kentucky 2007 Primary Election (May 15th) – Candidates


Governor


Democrats


Gatewood Galbraith & Mark Wireman http://www.gatewood.com/


Jonathan Miller & Irv Maze http://www.miller-maze.com/


Jody Richards & John Brown III http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jody_Richards


Steve Beshear & Dr. Dan Mongiardo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Beshear


Dr. Steven L. Henry & Renee True http://www.henrytrueforky.com/


Otis “Bullman” Hensley & Richard Robbins http://www.otisbullmanhensley.com/


Bruce Lunsford & Greg Stumbo http://www.lunsfordstumbo2007.com/


Republicans


Dr. Ernie Fletcher & Robbie Rudolph http://www.erniefletcher.com/


Anne Northup & Jeff Hoover http://www.northup-hoover2007.com/


Billy Harper & Dick Wilson http://www.harperforgovernor.com/


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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:53 AM
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39. Is it just me or has Stumbo really shot himself in the foot?
I don't think he can ever be a viable candidate for statewide office again. What got into his head, to first of all, run with Bruce Lunsford and secondly, to go after labor unions the way he has. Very poor judgement on his part!
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:08 PM
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40. Gatewood Galbraith support right here
If Galbraith can actually voice his stance on issues and not let the local media rubes dub him as "that crazy candidate who's for marijuana legalization," there is no politician in this state, Democrat or Republican, who can beat him.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:57 PM
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41. He is getting some favorable press
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 12:58 PM by BridgeTheGap
They don't seem to be harping on the pot issue this time around.
Still, Gatewood's negatives remain very high - not something you want to see if you want to get elected.
I heard he has republican support - odd for a Democrat - oh yeah, an independent turned Democrat because a Dem will be our next governor. Ann Northup probably has a different view of how this will go down.
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xthetylerx Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:59 AM
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42. Beshear/Mongiardo
They've got some nice plans for helping students afford college. Also, their plan to expand gambling will bring cash money to the state.

Beshear has also said he will not forget the Western part of the state, as many have.

Should be a good race, we'll see.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:29 PM
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43. Education plans & expanded gambling
Most of the candidates have them as part of their platform and I don't see these 2 issues as being ones that are going to set the candidates apart in the voters' minds.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 07:36 AM
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44. Is David Hawpe of the CJ endorsing Gatewood?
In this morning's CJ, David Hawpe waxes poetically about his fascination with the actress Doris Day and her complete lack of guile. He then applies this to the gubernatorial race. Given the tenor of the article, it almost sounds as if he's endorsing Gatewood.

http://tinyurl.com/2fzc6v

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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:42 AM
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46. Anyone on here watch the KET debate?
I didn't see a whole lot to crow about. Gatewood does a pretty good job of debating, making his points with wit, but would these qualities make him a good governor? Besides, he looks like hell!
Miller really needs to focus on what he wants to do as governor rather than attacking other candidates. It doesn't make him look good in the eyes of many voters.
While Henry did a fairly decent job of presenting, he is way too shady - same with old shifty eyes Lunsford. Got his dvd in the mail - threw it in the trash. He'll probably end up endorsing Fletcher again!
Beshear - maybe. Jody Richards - naw - very poor presentation. Otis "bullman" - good for a few laughs and will probably get that many votes.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 07:05 AM
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47. Will this "Yawner" get lively?
Tuesday, April 24, 2007 -- Courier Journal op-ed

John David Dyche
Will this 'yawner' get lively?

Some pundits are calling Kentucky's gubernatorial campaign a "yawner" and wondering if it is "ever going to generate any excitement." Translation: Nobody is running negative ads. When someone does, the press will happily heap righteous scorn on the perpetrator.

It could actually help a candidate to be targeted by opponents' attack TV. So far, the most baggage-laden candidates are performing best in the polls. WHAS-11's recent SurveyUSA sampling put Bruce Lunsford and Steve Henry atop the Democratic field and incumbent Ernie Fletcher first among Republicans.

Lunsford's bio boasts a big business bankruptcy, serial support for Republicans and a running mate whose past includes paternity litigation and public intoxication. Henry's headlines feature a federal fraud settlement and an ongoing campaign finance investigation. Fletcher took the Fifth Amendment before admitting inappropriate acts and evidence strongly indicating administration wrongdoing.

Despite their overflowing hampers of dirty laundry, these apparently are the leaders. The other would-be governors have been as polite to them as kids at cotillion.

Anne Northup would likely be ahead of Fletcher but for the curious candidacy of Billy Harper, who has spent liberally to spread his doctrinaire conservatism, but can never be nominated. She has thrown some powder puff punches at Fletcher, claiming he cannot win in November and noting his frequent fudging of economic facts and figures. She must soon strike him harder.



Nothing has become Fletcher's governorship like the missionary zeal with which he is fighting to keep it. His campaign religiously preaches a distinctly messianic re-election message.

Fletcher's first ad portrayed him as a pure young soul facing persecution while walking through a playground equivalent of the valley of the shadow of death full of loud-mouthed little kids. In another bit of Baptist-flavored electoral evangelism, Fletcher's face emerges from a flame as the choir sings "This Little Light of Mine."

Forget a special legislative session. Fletcher's campaign feels more like vacation Bible school. In answer to Ernie's altar call, state contractors are apparently filling the Fletcher collection plate with offering checks. Where their treasures are, there will their ballots be also, or so he hopes.

Republicans have no monopoly on religious imagery. The seven-headed Democratic slate resembles a frightening creature from Revelation. At recent forums, some contenders' comments have been almost as incomprehensible as that apocalyptic text.

Ironically, Jody Richards, speaker of the state House, sometimes has the hardest time talking. But teachers could not care less that Richards's oratory barely betters the babbling of Otis "Bullman" Hensley among the Democratic hopefuls. To gain that group's Friend of Education Award, it is enough that Richards regularly responds, "Yes, ma'am," to commands from Kentucky Education Association president Frances Steenbergen.

At the other end of the rhetorical spectrum, the loquacious Gatewood Galbraith believes the Richards campaign, which recently purged its manager and finance chair, rests upon a fallacious premise -- that the candidate can accomplish as governor what he has failed to do while leading the House.

Jonathan Miller, 39, and Steve Beshear, 62, blend together in a Dorian Gray kind of candidacy. They have similar political backgrounds, share a good-government Bluegrass blueblood constituent base, and echo each other on expanded gambling. But one seems too young to be governor, the other too old.

If the race was for student council president, Miller, ever the earnest eager beaver with better ideas, would surely win, as he did a recent mock election at Kentucky colleges. One easily imagines Beshear, gray-haired with an avuncular gravitas, battling Morty Seinfeld for the presidency of Del Boca Vista's condo board. It will be difficult for either to win as long as both are in.

On the stump, Lunsford plies potential primary voters with barbeque. But there is not enough pork, or money, in Kentucky to make them believe anything issuing from the mouth of this man recently caught red-handed passing off as his own words and ideas from a failed Florida candidate. A loyal Democrat with fewer prior problems, Beshear can better withstand his own embarrassing policy plagiarism.

Maybe the most startling development from recent Democratic debates is Henry's poised gubernatorial presence behind a podium. He also has plenty of chutzpah, but little capacity for embarrassment or shame. From Happy Chandler to Wallace Wilkinson, history proves this can be a winning personality profile in commonwealth politics.

A boring campaign? Perhaps. But if the filing date was the starting gate and primary election day is the finish line, these horses are just approaching the quarter pole. The homestretch of Kentucky's gubernatorial derby can still be exciting.

John David Dyche is a Louisville attorney who writes a political column on alternate Tuesdays in Forum. His views are his own, not those of the law firm in which he practices. Read him on-line at www.courier-journal.com; e-mail: jddyche@yahoo.com.

Some pundits are calling Kentucky's gubernatorial campaign a "yawner" and wondering if it is "ever going to generate any excitement." Translation: Nobody is running negative ads. When someone does, the press will happily heap righteous scorn on the perpetrator.

It could actually help a candidate to be targeted by opponents' attack TV. So far, the most baggage-laden candidates are performing best in the polls. WHAS-11's recent SurveyUSA sampling put Bruce Lunsford and Steve Henry atop the Democratic field and incumbent Ernie Fletcher first among Republicans.

Lunsford's bio boasts a big business bankruptcy, serial support for Republicans, and a running mate whose past includes paternity litigation and public intoxication. Henry's headlines feature a federal fraud settlement and an ongoing campaign finance investigation. Fletcher took the Fifth Amendment before admitting inappropriate acts and evidence strongly indicating administration wrongdoing.

Despite their overflowing hampers of dirty laundry, these are apparently the leaders. The other would-be governors have been as polite to them as kids at cotillion.

Anne Northup would likely be ahead of Fletcher but for the curious candidacy of Billy Harper, who has spent liberally to spread his doctrinaire conservatism, but can never be nominated. She has thrown some powder puff punches at Fletcher, claiming he cannot win in November and noting his frequent fudging of economic facts and figures. She must soon strike him harder.

Nothing has become Fletcher's governorship like the missionary zeal with which he is fighting to keep it. His campaign religiously preaches a distinctly messianic reelection message.

Fletcher's first ad portrayed him as a pure young soul facing persecution while walking through a playground equivalent of the valley of the shadow of death full of loudmouthed little kids. In another bit of Baptist-flavored electoral evangelism, Fletcher's face emerges from a flame as the choir sings "This Little Light of Mine.".

Forget a special legislative session. Fletcher's campaign feels more like vacation Bible school. In answer to Ernie's altar call, state contractors are apparently filling the Fletcher collection plate with offering checks. Where their treasures are, there will their ballots be also, or so he hopes.

Republicans have no monopoly on religious imagery. The seven-headed Democratic slate resembles a frightening creature from Revelation. At recent forums, some contenders' comments have been almost as incomprehensible as that apocalyptic text.

Ironically, Jody Richards, speaker of the state House, sometimes has the hardest time talking. But teachers could not care less that Richards's oratory barely betters the babbling of Otis "Bullman" Hensley among the Democratic hopefuls. To gain that group's Friend of Education Award, it is enough that Richards regularly responds, "Yes, ma'am" to commands from Kentucky Education Association president Frances Steenbergen.

At the other end of the rhetorical spectrum, the loquacious Gatewood Galbraith believes the Richards campaign, which recently purged its manager and finance chair, rests upon a fallacious premise -- that the candidate can accomplish as governor what he has failed to do while leading the House.

Jonathan Miller, 39, and Steve Beshear, 62, blend together in a Dorian Gray kind of candidacy. They have similar political backgrounds, share a good-government Bluegrass blueblood constituent base, and echo each other on expanded gambling. But one seems too young to be governor, the other too old.

If the race was for student council president, Miller, ever the earnest eager beaver with better ideas, would surely win, as he did a recent mock election at Kentucky colleges. One easily imagines Beshear, gray-haired with an avuncular gravitas, battling Morty Seinfeld for the presidency of Del Boca Vista's condo board. It will be difficult for either to win as long as both are in.

On the stump, Lunsford plies potential primary voters with barbeque sandwiches. But there is not enough pork, or money, in Kentucky to make them believe anything issuing from the mouth of this man recently caught red-handed passing off as his own words and ideas from a failed Florida candidate. A loyal Democrat with fewer prior problems, Beshear can better withstand his own embarrassing policy plagiarism.

Maybe the most startling development from recent Democratic debates is Henry's poised gubernatorial presence behind a podium. He also has plenty of chutzpah, but little capacity for embarrassment or shame. From Happy Chandler to Wallace Wilkinson, history proves this can be a winning personality profile in commonwealth politics.

A boring campaign? Perhaps. But if the filing date was the starting gate and primary election day is the finish line, these horses are just approaching the quarter pole. The homestretch of Kentucky's gubernatorial derby can still be exciting.

John David Dyche is a Louisville attorney who writes a political column on alternate Tuesdays in Forum. His views are his own, not those of the law firm in which he practices. Read him on-line at www.courier-journal.com; e-mail: jddyche@yahoo.com.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:11 AM
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48. Where's Ben? Where's Jerry? from Mark Nickolas- BluegrassReport
Where's Ben? Where's Jerry? - by Mark Nickolas http://www.bluegrassreport.org/

Six months ago, all Democratic eyes were fixed on whether the state's two most popular Democrats -- U.S. Rep. Ben Chandler (D) and Louisville Mayor Jerry Abramson (D) -- would run for governor this year. They both demurred, and disappointed many.

Since then, seven Democrats did join the race, and polls show that its two most baggage-laden, ethically-challenged candidates -- Bruce Lunsford (D) and Steve Henry (D) -- have been leading the pack the entire way.

However, we've not heard a peep from either Chandler or Abramson about this race.

While it's understandable why they would opt not to take sides, it's not acceptable that they've gone into hiding while noticing that the Democratic electorate seems foolishly ready to nominate either Lunsford or Henry and doom our chances in the fall, particularly if Republican manage to get their collective act together and throw Governor Fletcher (R) overboard.

The narrative of this primary season has given us three very unexpected heroes in an effort to deny either Lunsford or Henry the nomination:

Organized labor has come out in full force (with very few exceptions) to actively campaign against Lunsford;

Former Henry campaign manager Leslie Holland has endured Henry's personal attacks and smears by going public with his law-breaking ways and even filed a complaint against him;

Now Jonathan Miller (D) has dropped-out of the race and supported Steve Beshear (D) in hopes of specifically preventing either Lunsford or Henry from advancing to the general election.
So, where are Chandler and Abramson? When are they going to demonstrate some leadership and match the efforts of organized labor, Holland and Miller? Or are they determined to remain in their safe, comfortable cocoon, to hell with the Democratic Party which looks to them for leadership? Chandler's silence is particularly disappointing given what Lunsford did to him in 2003 with the millions of dollars in bogus attack ads and then the betrayal of endorsing Fletcher in the fall after previously promising to support the Democratic nominee.

It's time for Chandler and Abramson to show some leadership.

It's time they make clear that Democrats must win back the Governor's Mansion in the fall and cannot afford to nominate either Lunsford or Henry. To do so would jeopardize our hopes of winning and would ensure that the Kentucky Democratic Party will be run by the same lackluster, egocentric, and unprincipled bunch of good ol' boys led by Jerry Lundergan.

It's time to step-up, Ben and Jerry. Many of us have sacrificed. When will you? There's only two weeks until the May 22 primary. Don't let us down, again.

Update: Meanwhile, the Courier-Journal offered two editorials this morning on the race -- one praised Miller and his decision to endorse Beshear, the other blasted Henry for deceiving voters that he still practices medicine at U of L. This is the very type of leadership we need from Ben and Jerry in the remaining days.

Posted by Mark Nickolas on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 at 09:15 AM in 2007 Elections, Campaigns and Elections, Henry-True, Lunsford-Stumbo, Partisan Politics, Rep. Ben Chandler
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:45 PM
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49. Latest Poll - Survey USA (from Bluegrass Report)
The good folks over at Ditch Mitch appear to have the early data from today's Survey USA poll, indicating that Steve Beshear (D) has greatly benefited from Jonathan Miller's (D) withdrawal and endorsement:

(previous results in parentheses):

Beshear/Mongiardo -- 32% (23%)
Lunsford/Stumbo -- 23% (29%)
Henry/True -- 18% (18%)
Richards/Brown -- 12% (9%)
Galbraith/Wireman --6% (5%)
Undecided -- 9% (7%)
Assuming these numbers are accurate, the other interesting storyline is that despite dumping million of dollars into this race, Bruce Lunsford (D) isn't getting any more traction this year than in 2003 when he peaked at about 25% and then dropped out.

Not only is Lunsford no sure thing for finishing second, but if Beshear continues to gather steam there's an outside chance he'll pierce 40%. Will Lunsford try to go back on his promise and launch attack ads against Beshear in the final week?
Courtesy of BluegrassReport
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