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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:04 AM
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Baltimore County residents are you happy with...
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 12:07 AM by nickshepDEM
Your county executive James T. Smith, Jr.?

Sometimes I get too caught up in National politics and I forogot about local politics. Does anyone know why people maybe upset with Smith and the job he is doing? Im from Dundalk and there is some of talk about a man by the last name "Weber" running against Smith. I even saw a bumper sticker that said "Democrat: Weber for Baltimore County Executive 2006." Any info would be appreciated.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:45 AM
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1. Dunno. I thought Smith was ok.
I used to be Baltimore County, but moved 20 minutes away to red Harford co. Smith sounded legit on WYPR....
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:06 AM
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2. I live in Balto County
and belong to several organizations, one of which is the local dem club and I have never heard a bad word about him.
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Debbi801 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:32 AM
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3. I've never heard anything bad about him...
From what I can tell as a county resident, he seems to be doing a very decent job.

Debbi
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:29 PM
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4. Thanks for the responses.
Im in Baltimore County too and I dont know why some people around here (dundalk) are upset with the job he is doing. My girlfriends mom works for an attorney around here and he invited me to a fundraiser for this guy "Weber" (i dont remember his first name) who is supposidly going to make a run against Smith. Ill keep you guys updated if I find out anything new.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 07:00 PM
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5. Dundalk
has been trending Republican for a while. Ehrlich represented that area in Congress and was very popular there.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 08:01 PM
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6. Yeah, but the guy they are running against Smith is a Democrat.
I get the feeling Dundalk is trending Republican too, but I have no clue why. It is by no means a ritch town. Its actually pretty poor if you ask me. Plus, we have quite a few Union Halls that are pretty strong. Espeically the Iron Workers Hall. Im guessing it has more to do with social reasons then economic reasons.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 08:21 PM
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7. racism
has a lot to do with it. Ehrlich made his name out there opposing section 8 housing.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:36 PM
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8. I was going to say that, but I didnt want to make my area look...
Racist. Ive noticed alot of people around here are bitching about section 8 housing. An old guy across the street from me (a die-hard democrat) blames it on Ruppersberger and that is why he refuses to vote for him.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:27 PM
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10. Are you in Dundalk?
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:55 PM
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15. Yes... n/t
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:34 PM
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13. one doesn't have to be racist to be wary about the projects
face it---projects are usually among the most dangerous areas around. Filled with pushers and pimps, hookers, gangstas and felons they can be very unwelcome.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:32 PM
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12. there is a difference between
not wanting a potentially crime ridden housing project popping up in your backyard and having real, racist beliefs.

I wouldn't want to live next door to a baltimore housing project. They are known for gunfights, car robbery, B and E, drug spots

You don't have to be racist to be concerned about having housing projects built in your neighborhood
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:47 PM
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14. I'll tell this story to illustrate my point
I was campaigning for Connie DeJulius in Dundalk and this guy says to me- "I'm voting for Bobby Ehrlich because he'll keep the ni--ers out."

I think that played a large part in his popularity there.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:00 PM
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16. Ive been hearing comments like that more and more...
Some people arent as blunt as others, but they still get their point across. Dundalk is definitley very populist if you ask me. By populist I mean economically liberal and socially conservative/center-right.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:21 PM
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20. you have the right read on things
Very blue collar union, but backwards socially.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:59 PM
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21. They should be on our side
they might be angry about affirmative action, and they might dislike gay marriage but on most issues they are with us.

If we can only convince these guys to vote in their best interests---concentrate on economic issues rather than get involved in culture wars with a bunch of fundies---these blue collar guys aren't exactly pro-fundy either..

They just get turned to the wrong side because of cheap, useless wedge issues and constant Republican propaganda on the airwaves.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:05 PM
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23. I agree
that's why you always here me talking about economic populism on these boards.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:33 PM
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24. That is how we win
not by being a party that seems to cry over every little social injustice.
We must correct the major economic injustices first, as that is our priority
We have to be a party for everyone, not just a party for multiculturalism, blacks, hispanics, gays

we win on economics. we win exposing their GOP greed. we don't win trying to pander to 1,000 different minorities that all have special causes
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:38 PM
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25. Economic Populism... IS what makes me a Democrat.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 04:38 PM by nickshepDEM
Im not a racist or homophobe, but socially Id say Im center, maybe a HAIR right of center. But I vote only on Economic issues, its what matters most to me.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:10 PM
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26. I'm fairly moderate on social issues
not racist or sexist at all, but certainly you won't see me at some multicultural art festival or marching in a gay rights parade.

I care about working people and how they are getting screwed. That is my bottom line in all of this.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:08 PM
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18. well, that is quite obvious
That is not trying to keep the neighborhood safe, that is pro-segregationist, period.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:11 PM
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19. .... n/t
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 03:13 PM by nickshepDEM
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:23 PM
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9. Things are changing though.
More clubs in Dundalk, and neighbors, clerks, etc. are PISSED w/this adm and do not like the Gov. Lost count how many swore they were for Bush, and now they say NO WAY!

But I gotta agree. A lot of prejudical thoughts down here. Red-neckish. Can't wait to move on.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:02 PM
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22. They mighht not be the most enlightened thinkers
on progressive social issues, but what we need to win is on economic issues.

I am willing to put social issues on a backseat until we can make the tax system more progressive, more aid to the poor, better schools, stop outsourcing and crack down on corporations like Walmart
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:28 PM
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11. socially conservative, economically liberal
shows how good the GOP is with them wedge issues.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:00 PM
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17. Yep... n/t
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