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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:13 PM
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Soon, you may no longer be able to post anonymously on DU.
Or anywhere on the internets.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-te.bz.blogger02nov02,1,7358590.story

A Maryland appeals court will hear arguments today in a case that could help determine whether someone who makes an anonymous -- and disparaging -- Internet posting in chat rooms or on message boards could be unmasked.

A decision could add to an emerging body of law shaping free-speech boundaries in the Internet age, when people using screen names as aliases regularly gripe online about politicians, employers and investments.

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The area is of great concern on Wall Street, where online postings have affected stock prices and tarnished corporate reputations.

The case stems from efforts by an Arizona drug company to obtain the names of subscribers to a financial newsletter based in Rockville, in hopes that those people might lead to others who allegedly defamed the company online.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:14 PM
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1. LET THEM TRY
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:23 PM
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10. They are.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:25 PM
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13. Well then...then...then...
we won't buy anymore crap on the internets, that's what!
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:30 PM
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18. Ha.
I don't buy crap on the internets anyway. I'm paranoid like that. The last bit of money I spent online was to donate to DU.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:16 PM
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2. They can have my info ...
If I call someone like * or Cheney a DOUCHEBAG, it's because I can't say it to their face.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:37 PM
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24. If they have their way, we won't be able to say it away from their face,
either.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:17 PM
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3. They are also working
to get universities to give them email/web-eavesdropping access. Like Universities will be required to redo their whole internet connection system to suit the gov't. :wtf:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:20 PM
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5. Now, that is messed up.
This should alarm even the conservatives, eh? They say all sorts of insane things on the internets.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:20 PM
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4. What - they're hiring "trial lawyers"?
These asswipes run camapign after campaign lambasting TRIAL LAWYERS as a symbol of everything thats wrong with America - but have you ever noticed how quickly they all go running to a trial lawyer whenever someone does something they don't like.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:21 PM
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6. Of course. It's hypocrisy at its finest.
Sickening.

:puke:
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:22 PM
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7. Can't post Anonymously?

Then post as someone else.

:rofl:

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:23 PM
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9. Har de har har.
:D

But this is serious stuff here.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:34 PM
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22. Yeah, well, I find it hard to take...
...anything regarding legislative policy on the commodity internet in use today very seriously.

The web as we know it consists mainly of insecure applications running on insecure OSes transmitting across insecure networks all administered by a 90/10 mix of boobs to competants. Noone seems to care that it could all go poof in under 24 hours if someone with brain cells and a mean sociopathic streak coded the right virus. So why should details like free speech legislation concern me particularly? It's like stomping out a cigarette butt on top of tire fire.

And the blunt instrument of government is going to come in here and do what? Restrict the freedom of people who want to post anonymously? Like they actually have managed to get spam rules to stick? Like they crack down on the thousands of script kiddies banging on my server's doors at 4am? Like they've made such strides in catching phishers? Yeah, they'll get right on that.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:36 PM
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23. Well, your post has scared me more than that article did.
Thanks.

:o
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:23 PM
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11. They want to outlaw anonymity.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:28 PM
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17. That is, unfortunately, what it comes down to
when you get your national ID and your implant ID chip, the Thought Police aren't far behind.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:42 PM
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26. I had a friend...
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 03:44 PM by Chan790
who was working on a data project for a government contractor that gave them access to everybody's personal data including SS#s, phones numbers and addresses. They used to make ironic donations to organizations with the proper data pretending to be major US government officials. (Ashcroft receiving an ACLU membership, for example.)

The boss came around and told the entire department that he didn't know who was doing it (and didn't want to know because he'd have to turn them over for investigation) but that they'd better stop. Then took them all out for drinks because he thought it was hilarious.

edited: the point is if they can't figure out who is pretending to be them...I sincerely doubt they're going to figure out that I'm not Elmer Fudd any time soon.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:22 PM
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8. We'll give up screen names if the politicians will quit
using "administration sources" and the rest when they decide it's time to spin the news. If blogging demands using a real name then so should ALL news reporting.

Honestly, like making a disparaging remark about someone on a blog has the same effect as sending thousands off to their senseless deaths over a pack of lies.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:24 PM
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12. A rational mind understands that.
Unfortunately, we are not dealing with rational minds.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:26 PM
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anyone who believes online postings on stocks
is an asshat who deserves what they get.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:26 PM
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14. a bill was NAYED by the House a few minutes ago
re: this very issue (in other words it did NOT get approved!).

:kick:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:28 PM
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16. Well, that is excellent news!
:thumbsup: Thanks!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:50 PM
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28. yep it sounds dead in the water to me
Both sides were voting NO on this btw for A CHANGE! :D :party:

:kick:

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:56 PM
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29. Heh. Something we can all agree on for once.
Doesn't happen often.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:15 PM
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30. no it does not happen very often, esp. these days
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 05:16 PM by CountAllVotes
Frankly, I was very surprised. It was put to rest after a mere oral YEAH OR NAY.

The NAYs were a lot louder and the YEAHs were a whimper.

This type of action does nothing but agitate all of these people for they are the ones that have things to hide, not your average Joe Blow from who cares where. *sigh*

Anyway, it was sunk and they said they had no plans to bring it before the House again anytime soon.

So yes, a victory for America this time around for a change (and for THEM too; we cannot forget about THEM)!!!

:kick:

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:26 PM
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15. "He loved big brother."
Just thought I'd skip right to the end of this novel; it's one of my favorites.

Oh...wait...this is really happening?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:31 PM
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20. Yes. It is really happening.
Frightening.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:31 PM
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19. Another example of Rep's not knowing how the Internet works...
I won't even dwell upon how this law can be rendered pointless...
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:33 PM
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21. Well, I don't really know how the internets work, either.
I just use them. :D

Could you give me the short version?
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:41 PM
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25. Use a BBS based in a country out of US jursidiction. Short enough? n/t
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:50 PM
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27. Yes, quite.
Thanks. :hi:
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