Is it Time To Impeach Gov.Deval Patrick???

[Breeze54]

Is it time already? :shrug:

I now feel, we the voters, are going to have to watch every little thing he does!!

I have lost faith and I'm quite dumbfounded at his stupidity!!!

We have enough problems keeping an eye on "The WH Moron";

I didn't and don't want to have to constantly keep an eye on this guy!!

Every other week he does some other really stupid, dumb thing!!

And now the posting of people's private information, takes the cake!

"From MassVote:

massvote 03-26-2007, 7:04 PM

If you want a real anon discussion website, go to www.massvoter.net.

Use any e-mail address you want, any name that you want, just stay on topic.

What bothers me is that they are using state monies and (ala staffing and consultants) to run what
is really a campaign site. If you remember www.devalpatrick.com was his campaign site, harvesting
peoples names and voter information for the support of a candidate in the auspice of moving state
gov't issues forward is AGAINST THE LAW!

This site should either stay a campaign site and not use state money to run it or get shut down."

www.massvote.net


:argh: :spank: :mad: :evilfrown:

Deval Patrick is proving to be quite the :dunce: dunce!!

[sasha031]

1. Better than what's her face?

I forgot her name, but the republican, I couldn't stand her. Can we put up with him for a few yrs and then get a real Dem?

Oh that's right, you have to be a billionaire to get elected to office :puke:

[Breeze54]

3. Let's get O' Reilly back!!

;)

NOT a repuke, like Healey.

I don't know if MA has impeachment for the Gov. but something needs to happen and fast!!

What a complete IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!

[sasha031]

5. I voted for him too

Barney Frank recommended him, and instead on my lazy ass doing some investigating, I listened to Barney.

Riley the media made trash out of nothing, how I loath them. So he was slimed before he started. Now we have a repuke wearing Dem's clothing, now unusaul is that? :eyes:

[Mass]

8. Patrick a Republican. God, what is it with you people?

Get real. Reilly got the same treatment from the media Patrick is getting now. If you were shocked by how Reilly was treated, be shocked by how Patrick is treated.

[Breeze54]

9. Get real??

Has he posted your address on his website? Have you checked?

I didn't even have to register to find it!

He's the one who needs to "get real" along with Liz Morningstar!

[Mass]

12. So, you want to impeach him for that? God, it is the first time in years MA

has somebody who seems a decent governor, probably the reason why the media and the MA pols are so much mad at him.

I do not know what the story is with the email address, but I assume they will disappear. However, I commend Patrick to have created a website that will allow him to communicate with people without the filter of a Jon Kerry, Andy Hiller, or Joan Vennochi. Happy to see he understands how the game is played.

By the way, here is his privacy policy. What is your problem with that?
http://devalpatrick.com/privacy.php

[Breeze54]

13. It isn't e-mail addresses. It's HOME addresses!!!

:grr:

What privacy??? Wake up!

[sasha031]

10. thank you for reminding me

I was falling for the bull for a moment, we have a rghtwing press here too. Who owns the Globe, the librul NYT and the Tvveeee it's all the same.

When people think Ma is a liberal state I have to laugh, we are lucky to be blue, but look at the beautiful shade of blue RI is.

I happen to live in Plymouth County, do you know Patrick made it by 2 votes here, and I was one of them.

There are allot of right wingers in this area, I was shocked, but this county is divided..

Funny thing is, this is not a rich town, but they are a bunch of righties, must be faux fans.

I'm moving and can;t wait... all states are the same. this country is purple.

[JohnHosty]

38. Her Name?

Muffy, or something like that, wasn't it? Anyway, this article seems to be more of sour grapes rant than carry any factual information. I guess the poster figures he/she can take a page from the "Vote on Marriage" handbook, and use emotion rather than logic to inspire those with weak minds. lol, good luck with that around here in MA...

[Ian David]

2. Uhm... no. No. And no. Oh, and WTF!?!?!

[Breeze54]

4. That's what I say for Patrick and Morningstar!

Idiots!

[rox63]

6. WTF? That's some nasty-ass BS you're pushing n/t

[Mass]

7. Are you serious?

Jeez, we have had this guy for 2 months now and all the RW media of the state, including the Globe, have started to go after him, judging every single small misstep he has done, as inconsequential.

If us Democrats start doing that, we tell them they can do whatever they can and that we will not fight back.

How did anything Patrick done affect us negatively? However, be sure that DiMasi's decision to refuse to close corporate loopholes or Therese Murray's decision to have a ConCon will affect plenty of people.

So fight back against the media, do not submit to their diktats, or we will have a Republican Governor and a failed state for a very long time.

[Breeze54]

11. Yes! I'm seriously pissed off! n/t

[TayTay]

14. Then tell the Mass legislature to close the loop

This is a variation of the campaign software that used voter information that is legally available to anyone who wants it. This is not new stuff, we used this in the campaign.

There is a need for sunshine laws in the Commonwealth that bring information out of the hidey-holes that are used to suppress it and make it accessible to the people. This was a major ingredient in the 'people-powered' campaign that Deval Patrick ran. It enabled regular people to work the levers of the system and find out friends and neighbors who were Democrats and engage them in discussions about the Gov race.

A flaw has been exposed in that system. The flaw should be fixed. However, don't throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. Make a shield law that somehow checks with other Mass governmental agencies and blocks names of people who need to have their names blocked. This would be a wise way to keep the transparency of voter lists and protect people who don't want or can't have their information made public.

Fix the actual problem. Don't have a nervous breakdown because something new didn't work perfectly the first time out. That is ridiculous.

[Breeze54]

15. The web designer for Patrick is an idiot! So is his approval!

He wants a discussion website? Fine!

Then let people decide to register or not.

How dare he just put everyone's info there with out their knowledge or consent?

You do NOT have to register to find people either! It all right there!

There are people who's lives are in danger due to this idiot move!

Women with restraining orders for protection from violence!

How could he not understand that? That's beyond comprehension, imho!

He needs a keeper. :grr:

[TayTay]

16. This has been a part of the Patrick campaign

since last year. The voter rolls were computerized and put on record.

There are many, many ways to access your voter information that you probably are not aware of. You can see the address of anyone who has contributed to a political campaign in the Commonwealth at this address: http://www.efs2.cpf.state.ma.us/EFSprod/servlet/ContributionSearchInit Unlike the federal site, this one tracks everyone who gives, $1 and up.

I think you should demand that Bill Galvin resign immediately for letting this information up. (Gee, this has been available for a few years in this format. Don't you think Galvin should be impeached for this?)

I think we should impeach the makers of the White Pages and Google as well. Anyone can search and find you on those pages. All you need to know is the right search terms and there you are.

[Breeze54]

17. Patrick needs to get a clue and

yes; unfortunately I voted for him.

I do not trust him anymore.

[TayTay]

18. What about Bill Galvin

Did you lose trust in him as well. He is letting personal addresses out in the campaign filing site. Impeach him too, right? After all, he should have thought about what he was doing before he let people in the Commonwealth see who is funding political campaigns. We should scuttle the sytem, nobody needs that info out there.

Or maybe we can fix it.

[thoughtanarchist]

19. Have fun with that...

I form my judgements based on policy decisions.

But hey, that's just me.

:shrug:

[Kat45]

20. The site is not paid for by taxes.

It is paid for and run by the Deval Patrick Committee.

I think it's great to provide a forum for us regular folks to champion our issues to the administration. Unfortunately, somebody screwed up in allowing personal information to be available to anyone who looks for it. Let's see what happens now. It appears that he has heard about this 'glitch' in the system; I'm expecting him to have that fixed immediately. If he doesn't, then there's a serious problem.

[bluescribbler]

22. It has been fixed.

You can't get people's addresses there anymore.

[Breeze54]

24. The damage he and his committee caused has not been fixed.

He has not only jeopodized other people's safety but he has also sacrificed his credibility.

There are now almost 13 pages of pissed off people at:

www.thebostonchannel.com
Discussion group: NewsCenter5
Discussion Topic: Mass. Voter Info On Web Site?

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I hate quoting this newspaper but it is factually correct. (the article)
Just go check Patricks' Committee's website and see for yourself.

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Deval Web site takes more hits: Critics say risks still exist

By Casey Ross
Boston Herald Reporter
Wednesday, March 28, 2007

http://news.bostonherald.com/localPolitics/view.bg?articleid=191224

Gov. Deval Patrick’s supporters were still scrambling to fix his controversial Web site
last night after additional concerns were raised that it does not go far enough to
protect victims of domestic violence.

Despite an initial round of changes, advocates for battered women said yesterday that
personal information is still too accessible on the site, prompting Patrick’s supporters
to again go back to the drawing board.

“We never said we weren’t going to have to make some changes,” said Steve Crawford, a
spokesman for Patrick’s political committee, which launched the Web site last weekend.

However, the problems with the site, DevalPatrick.com., are rapidly snowballing into yet
another controversy for the governor, who is trying to rebuild his image after a series
of political missteps during his first weeks in office.

“It has backfired, no question about it,” said Paul Watanabe, a political science
professor at the University of Massachusetts at Boston.
“The initial impact (of the site) has only been to raise more questions.”

Crawford said no major format changes are being planned, but he added that technicians
are revamping the registration section to include more privacy safeguards. He said more
exact information will be required from users, thus making it more difficult to access
home addresses.

In addition to the privacy problems, the site also has provoked concern about content.

more .....

[bluescribbler]

21. One correction

Deval is not using state money to run www.devalpatrick.com. It's campaign funds. It's separate from the Governor's office.

[Breeze54]

23. Go correct massvote...

I didn't say it was funded by the tax payers.

It was one of his campaign sites though.

https://secure.devalpatrick.com/pages

https://secure.devalpatrick.com/page/2007

[bluescribbler]

25. You C&P, you own it

Your OP implies that you believe that the site is taxpayer funded. You chose to paste in that quote.

[Breeze54]

26. It's in quotes and bolded.

It doesn't matter though. Read it anyway you want.

whatever.

[Bombtrack]

27. Is his wife suffering from depression one of the stupid, dumb things he's done ?

because that seems to be whats gotten more press than anything.

[primative1]

28. The Short Answer

No. Ask me again after he's had a year in office. Then we will have something to discuss.
Until then ... hmm, sounds like something I'd expect to hear from Howie Carr.

[Breeze54]

29. Why? Does Carr get angry too?

:shrug:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/03/08/patricks_mortgages_amount_to_59m/

''There has to be a line drawn between public affairs and private ones, and I am drawing it here,"
Patrick said, explaining why he will not release his tax returns.

Guess Patrick and his committee only believe in privacy for themselves. :eyes:

[hyphenate]

30. I might be completely off-base here

but I think that the whole smear campaign by the media against Deval Patrick is deliberate and wrong.

Give the guy a fucking break! He's in a new job, he has a lot to learn, and when someone points out a faux pas, he quickly gets the situation and changes.

Is the Herald expounding on his mistakes? They've been so nasty that it doesn't matter--they're going to try to fry Patrick regardless.

It's when people actually believe half the shit the papers publish or the pundits as well that we end up with misconceptions and half-truths, and this hurts all of us. Gray Davis was set up in California and run out of town on a rail as a result of Republicans and their interference, even AFTER he was legally elected and inaugurated. Are we all ready for the continual dirty tricks that the rightwing leaves us with?

Massachusetts is a different animal than California, though: there are no regions in MA where Republicans have a true hold, and those Republicans who are in office tend to be more moderate than other states. It still is rather blatant when some conservative tries to fuck up a Democrat here, and we need to be constantly skeptical when one makes the attempt.

I get continuously frustrated when I see such shit going on, and especially since these assholes have been on Patrick like a rash from the first day in office on. Too bad none of them were present day and night during Romney's term in office and found all the skeletons in HIS closet. And let's not forget the complete lack of scrutiny on GWB since his inauguration--what kind of ethics allows that amount of slack to continue from day one? Even before the 2000 election, there was hanky-panky going on--only a handful of newspapers reported on Bush's AWOL, and certainly the voices of reason who pointed out that both Bush and Cheney came from the same state were drowned out by some other Democratic scandal or big headline meaning nothing.

We already know that the right wing has got a superior tradition of subterfuge and conspiracy-- instead of trying to "un-elect" our new governor, we need to concentrate on the REAL assholes on the right who are relentless and hypocritical in their attacks on progression.

[jakem]

31. well said. nt

[bluescribbler]

32. You are completely ON BASE here.

Funny how the DamnLiberalMedia seem to cut the Repugs a lot of slack, but pounce on the least little thing when a Democrat does it.

I also can't help but wonder whether melanin has anything to do with it.

[Breeze54]

33. Even if the MSM are trying to smear or

nitpik, (which I don't doubt the rethugs are doing), then he should be more careful! More diligent in what he approves and says and does! I voted for Patrick and supported him in his campaign and was a cheerleader for his election. But he has made some decisions that pissed off a lot of people. I didn't get upset until his committee's website fiasco! I was concerned about MY privacy and I have every right to be and I was pissed off when I posted this OP. All my info. was there on his website, for anybody in the world to copy! When this hit the news; the interview and the arrogant responses from 'his team' and the non-answers that Patrick, himself, gave were what tripped my trigger! Rethugs and media trying to pull a 'swiftboat' campaign is BS and I agree with you but he also has a responsibility to me, as a citizen of the Commonwealth, to protect my interets! My privacy is just as important to me; as his is to him! They should've known better! The dismissive responses from his committee really pissed me off and that is still irking me; even though they have finally tightened up the security at the site. I was questioning my decision to vote for him and I don't care if he is a Democrat or what! He holds an office, the highest office in the state and he IS responsible for what he does! That's part of his job! That's the whole basis for the website! Open discussions with the public! So, if he didn't want to hear the angry out cries from the citizens, then having the site at all, is hypocritical!

[bluescribbler]

34. If you're so concerned about your privacy

Why haven't you said anything about Sec. Galvin's web site?

[Name removed]

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[bluescribbler]

36. Congratulations!

You now have the dubious distinction of being the first poster to make it on my ignore list. How did you earn this distinction? You accused me of being a Freeper, when you are the one calling for the impeachment of our first Democratic Governor in 16 years, after barely three months in office. To top it off, you cite the Herald, the closest thing Boston has to the Washington Times.

[Name removed]

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[JohnHosty]

39. I'm With You

Where is my ignore button... Ah, that's better!

[Rockholm]

40. WOW! Five registered users! What a neato place to yack!