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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:08 PM
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Did I just see that Delahunt, Lynch and McGovern voted for Flag Amendment?
Also Neal?

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll296.xml

Excuse Me? Don't we have more important things to worry about than nonexistant flag burnings?

Please!!! Recess,go home,Congress hasn't done one constructive thing!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:13 PM
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1. Lynch and I are going to have words
When I spoke to his staffer weeks ago, he was still un-decided.

This is really the first time I remember that I've really disagreed with his vote on something.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:16 PM
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2. Did you like his vote with Delay on the Schiavo case ?
Why does he have a D next to his name?

He also thinks its great that we are in Iraq

I say that when we lose a Congressional seat after the next census we just give his district away to his neighboring Congressman;carve it up

Bye Bye Lynch!!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:21 PM
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3. I must have missed those. Sorry. I need to have MORE words with him now
I was away on vacation during the Schiavo thing, so I had a hard time following it. I spent most of the time either at Disney World or driving from Miami to Boston.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:32 PM
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4. Let me know what he says in response
I know someone who was at the St. Patrick's Day Breakfast in South Boston/new Convention Center - evidently Mr Lynch thinks he can beat Kerry

I kid you not

What is that guy smoking,drinking? He is completely delusional and every vote he makes in Congress confirms to me that he doesn't know what state he lives in

Hint: it's not red and it's nowhere near Texas

Tell him that for me

Thanks
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:36 PM
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5. Delahunt better not have.
Friday morning I'm going to his hyannis office to burn one
if he did.

What a friggen loser, asking us at his town meeting with Cape Codders for Peace and Justice, to give him a 5th term.

I yelled out loud in the crowd for him to please be a politician like John conyors.

1st ammendment, my ass.

He's going down, we gotta find an antiwar dude to take his place.
How about Matt Patrick!
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:40 PM
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6. Oh yea, he did.
Click on the link

I'm sick about it; he's my Congressman too

What possessed him? Is he really that worried about his district? Demographically?

Unbelievable
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:42 PM
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7. Merbex- I'll drive you to Hyannis and back
if you want to do this with me!

BASTARD
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:53 PM
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8. I am composing a blistering letter - not an email- a real honest to God
snail mail letter with a stamp that I've heard they don't really get any more so they pay extra close attention to the ones they get

The point for me is when was the last time anyone even did this? It is everyone's right to do so but 99.9% of Americans realize that that is the penultimate protest and not to be done lightly. It is nice to know that when I've finally reached the boiling point I could do that as a form of free speech

What is he afraid of?

Answer: losing his Congressional seat

He certainly can't be afraid of people burning flags

There aren't any people burning flags!! Not in his district or anywhere I can think of

What a waste of Congress' time and taxpayers money this bill was
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:11 PM
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9. Just sent a letter to Matt Patrick
regarding this issue. Told him to run against Delahunt!

Hey you should come to my Labor day shindig-
Gonna greet, then wave arivaderche to the tourists
Having a party my house on that Sunday, live music, beer1

Could use your support


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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:21 PM
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10. Thanks, I'd like to but we celebrate our daughters birthdays
Labor Day weekend

2 kids -their birthdays are 8 days apart and it is within 3 days of Labor Day

The only time this summer that we will be on the Cape will be for our niece's 16th birthday;she lives in Centerville

Her birthday is the end of July. Once we get an invitation I'll check back about waving /protesting to the tourists
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:57 PM
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11. I'd love to see Southie get its act together and heave Steve Lynch!
.
I'd love to see Southie get its act together and heave Steve Lynch! Lynch cannot seem to separate his religious convictions from the law as well as pinching his own legal (attorney) ethics to empower his own political career. Lynch isn't a Democrat but for his labor stance. Oh, geezuz, his labor stance! (I grew up w/o a pot to piss in, had to work in labor and put myself thru law school, yada, yada, yada.)

For example (some snippets):

TEN COMMANDMENT DISPLAY, June 15, 2005, voting 242 for and 182 against, the House on June 15 barred the U.S. Marshals Service from enforcing a federal judge's order that a Ten Commandments display be removed from the Gibson County, Indiana courthouse lawn. In January, the judge ruled the display "in violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution." (a vote "yes" was to stop the enforcement of the federal court order; a vote "no" was to enforce the federal court order): Massachusetts: voting yes, Lynch. voting no, Olver, Neal, McGovern, Frank, Meehan, Tierney, Markey, Capuano, Delahunt. (Since when does congress step in to "over-ride" a federal judge's order? To not obey a federal judge?)
(BosSundayGlobe, "Thomas Voting Reports," p. A18, June 19, 2005)

FETUS VIOLENCE Voting 254 for and 163 against, the House on Feb. 26, 2004, passed a bill (HR 1997) giving a human fetus "at any stage of development" the same legal rights as its pregnant mother when a federal crime is committed against the mother. Beginning with conception, it would have standing as a victim if it were harmed during a violent crime, just as the mother does. Judges could impose extra punishment for the fetal crime but not the death penalty. A vote of "yes" favors this bill; a vote of "no" is opposed to this bill. Voting No, Olver, McGovern, Frank, Meehan, Tierney, Markey, Capuano, Delahunt; voting yes, Lynch, Neal.
(this bill is a backdoor attempt to override Roe v. Wade)

HEALTH WAIVER EXCEPTION Members on June 4, 2003 refused, 165 for and 256 against, to add an exception to HR 760 that would permit the disputed abortion when it is deemed medically necessary to protect the mother from serious health consequences. This went beyond a waiver in the bill to save the mother's life. A yes vote backed a health waiver exception. Voting yes, Olver, McGovern, Frank, Meehan, Tierney, Markey, Capuano, Neal, Delahunt; voting no, Lynch. (Another anti-Roe v. Wade, chipping away at it.)

MINOR'S ABORTION: Voting 270 for and 157 against, the House on
April 27 passed a bill (HR 748) making it a federal crime to
transport a minor to another state for an abortion to circumvent a
law in her home state requiring parental notification or approval
of the abortion. A vote of yes was to pass this bill. Voting no, Olver, McGovern, Frank, Meehan, Tierney, Markey, Capuano, Neal, Delahunt; voting yes, Lynch. (This is another anti-Roe v. Wade bill.)

GRANDPARENTS, CLERGY: Voting 177 for and 252 against, the House on
April 27 rejected a Democratic amendment to exempt grandparents and
clergy from the criminal sanctions and civil liability imposed by
HR 748 (above, Minor's Abortion bill). Voting yes, Olver, McGovern, Frank, Meehan, Tierney, Markey, Capuano, Neal, Delahunt; voting no, Lynch. (This is another anti-Roe v. Wade bill)

The House TERRY SCHIAVO BILL: Stephen Lynch was VERY outspoken about "upholding" Terry Schiavo's "rights" and voted with the rightwingers.

Did you note that Lynch usually stands alone in the Massachusetts congressional delegation with his off-the-wall social conservatism? And, these are not isolated instances, for Stephen Lynch votes his religion against women's rights, abortion issues and Lynch is a homophobe through and through. He's right "up there" with social conservative (rightwing) Tom Finneran, ex-Speaker of the Massachusetts House. I remember when Steve was merely another Massachusetts pol (not Congressman) when he volunteered his attorney services (for free) to some white Irish male teenagers who had severely beaten an Hispanic kid in Charlestown's "projects." This was a political media move on Lynch's behalf, because these teenagers would have had public defenders for free. Lynch got his media coverage on that one (wink, wink, nod, nod)!

Hey, Southie, vote this bastard OUT!

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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:32 AM
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13. Thank you so much for providing this information about Lynch
I have the "luxury "of not thinking about him that often since he isn't my Congressman but I am good friends with someone who thinks that Lynch is all that and a bag of chips.

All because of Labor

He does have a funny looking district that could definitely be absorbed into other districts thereby eliminating his seat

It would be nice to defeat him in a primary though. But why bother when I've heard we are going to lose a seat after the next census

I'm going to email your post to this friend of mine and ask if Lynch is still a great guy
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:15 AM
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14. But why bother when I've heard we are going to lose a seat
Because the redistricting will occur after the 2010 census and Lynch will be in office another 6 years?

:shrug:
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:13 AM
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16. Just in case the politicians who determine districts for some STUPID
reason decide to eliminate someone else's district

This stuff should be used by someone to launch a primary challenge to Lynch in case that occurs
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:18 PM
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17. You are welcome . . . AND HERE'S MORE on Lynch . . .
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 06:28 PM by TaleWgnDg
.
Here's more:

1.) Stephen J. Lynch, interest group ratings, vote-smart.org bio:
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=BS022888

2.) Stephen J. Lynch, interest group ratings, vote-smart.org abortion issues:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS022888&type=category&category=Abortion%2BIssues&go.x=9&go.y=12

3.) Stephen J. Lynch, interest group ratings, vote-smart.org civil liberties:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS022888&type=category&category=Civil%2BLiberties&go.x=8&go.y=7

4.) Stephen J. Lynch, interest group ratings, vote-smart.org civil rights (note the Human (gay) Rights Campaign rating is only 88 during last year's congressional session, 2004)
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS022888&type=category&category=Civil%2BRights&go.x=10&go.y=7

5.) Stephen J. Lynch, interest group ratings, vote-smart.org labor http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS022888&type=category&category=Labor&go.x=11&go.y=3

6.) Stephen J. Lynch, voting record, vote-smart.org http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BS022888


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another anti-Roe v. Wade vote by Lynch:

HOUSE AMDT 209 to HR 1815 (2005): Amendment sought to allow military personnel and their dependents overseas to use their own funds to obtain abortion services in overseas military hospitals. Vote "yes" would allow privately funded abortions at U.S. military facilities overseas.

Representative Stephen F. Lynch voted NO.

House Amendment Vote: 5/25/2005: Amendment Rejected: 194-233 (Roll no. 216).
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3531&can_id=BS022888

(This means that Lynch believes that military funds should not be used for abortions for military personnel and their dependents overseas; AND that abortions should not be allowed EVEN IF military personnel and their dependents use THEIR OWN MONEY to pay for abortions at military hospitals overseas. Does this mean that a military female must revert to back-alley-abortions while serving overseas? Unreal.)
______________________________________________

More research on Lynch's political stance and his voting record will demonstrate how damn conservative he really is; and how Lynch cannot separate his own religious beliefs from law.
______________________________________________


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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 12:21 AM
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12. Yup
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:25 AM
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15. Just called Delahunts office to till him I was VERY unhappy
with his vote yesterday. The kid on the line, kinda chuckled like he'd been hearing this a lot. I told him I hoped he wouldn't be voting against PBS today, in hopes that he didn't really want to remove all our 1st Ammend. rights. Then asked him to add that we are looking for a congressman like John Conyors!
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