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Quote: >You are lamenting pretty much the same thing that various native >peoples have been lamenting since, what, 1492 or so. Of course every new wave of New Mexicans does this. My gripe is that people who have $$$ $ are pushing out people who roots and time in this state. I despise the way this country is centered on the fact that those with $$$ have more validity. People who have roots, honor, conscience, etc. are of less value than people who have $$$$. The present U.S. executive administration is a perfect example of what I'm saying. Actually, the Hispanics who returned to New Mexico in 1683, as well as the new Hispanic settlers who joined them learned to live together with the Native People. The First American Revolution humbled them . In order for both the Pueblos and Hispanic settlements to survive they had to get along. There were efforts by both the Spanish and Mexican governments to protect Pueblo land. They weren't always successful, but there for efforts. I won't give you a New Mexico History lesson here, but you may need a New Mexico natural environment lesson.
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>There were people here when your ancestors came here. With them came more "traffic"
>(albeit, at that time it was horse traffic on the trail) and growth.
Haaa, traffic on horse trails. That is a good one. I'm talking about poor development planning. I'm talking about pushing for growth in a water poor state. I'm talking about selling out New Mexico to the highest bidder. I'm talking about pushing for a major roadway through the one place in this city that has been saved as a sacred site, the petroglyph monument.
We live in an environment that has never been able to sustain a large population. We simply do not have the water. We can't rely on the ground water any more because it just isn't there. This is true for the whole state. I'm sorry, you just can't squeeze water out of a dry land. This is my concern. All the Udall family members in politics show an understanding of this fact. Their policies and their votes in Congress prove this. The actions and policies of Mayor Chávez do not show this fact.
< For actions and policies see: [br />http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Tom_Udall.htm
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/u000039/
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=22658&type=category&category=30&go.x=16&go.y=13
http://www.progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?issue=N0&member=NM3]
>What gives you the right to claim "ownership" of New Mexico? Your "I've been here longer than you have and
>I support Udall because of all the high taxes, new homes, growth and the traffic" is a joke. Are you kidding????
Again, why should your $$$ enable you to push others out. How dare you laugh at the hundreds of years my ancestors sweated and toiled in this land, but learned to live with the land & the people around them. I've never been bothered by newcomers to New Mexico. My mother was a newcomer in 1945, and she loved this state as much as my father did. People who move into New Mexico, who care about New Mexico, who respect its culture and its people, and bring in their own culture to add to the mix is what New Mexico is all about. I'm talking about people who move in, push others out because the have more $$$$ and try to remake New Mexico into where ever they came from. This is what Mayor Marty's development has done.
>What's Udall's plan to turn back the tide of people moving to the desert southwest? Has he proposed tax cuts?
>Is he proposing a border fence? What's his plan to get cars off the road so you can drive without so much traffic??? Gimme a break.
This is just rediculous. The basis of my argument is that Mayor Marty has sold out to developers. He has pushed for development of Alburquerque, which has been happening too rapidly, and without consideration of the environment we live in. Have you looked at Udall's voting record? He is one of the strongest supporters of environmental concerns.
>Speaking of water (in case you don't remember), Marty led the fight to retain our water for
>the people rather than wash it down the Rio Grande for the fish.
This is a small issue within a huge issue. The Issue of water and water rights in the west is a huge topic that can't be covered by a little Río water. In the scheme of the huge topic, Udall agiand has more experience and more knowledge about this topic. I want someone, who will fight for New Mexico, which Udall has shown he will. Developing New Mexico is not fighting for New Mexico. It is selling it out.
>He really cleaned up the downtown area and have you seen Tingley Beach???? It's beautiful >and a great place to take the family. It used to be a real dump.
>Albuquerque leads THE WORLD in bicycle paths. You can get literally ANYWHERE in the >Albuquerque area on a bicycle. It's awesome and Marty led that program.
Of course we can't give Jim Baca or the City Council any credit for any of this when we have SUPER MAYOR on hand. I’m not saying that I haven't like many of the things that Marty has done. I'm saying there is more that I don't agree with. I'm saying he is too conservative for my tastes. I'm saying I want someone in the Senate who is from my political party and leaning. I'm saying I believe Udall can win and I fear Mayor Chávez can't win.
>Marty pretty much single-handedly saved my house. During the bosque fire a few years ago my house was in real danger. Marty procured a
>helicopter from somewhere (it wasn't on the job before he personally got involved) and that thing stopped the fire about a quarter mile
>from my house!
I'm glad he saved your house. How lucky you are that you have an in with the Mayor so he can personally save your home. I hope he saves my working class neighborhood in the north valley from the encroaching developers that are all around us. I'm not rich, but I'm educated. I choose a profession that has a lower salary in terms of $$, but a larger salary in terms personal & spiritual reward. Will Mayor Martín bring a helicopter to save my house when it has been decided my working class neighborhood needs to be bulldozed in order to put another road to the west side?
>The bosque area has been cleaned up and is not NEARLY the fire hazard that it was.
>Our streets are clean and the medians are attractive.
This was something that needed to be done years before, but isn't that always the case. Fires are going to happen. The family I married into has been fighting forest fires in New Mexico for three generations, so don't tell me about fires. I've married into fire. Believe me fire fighters that risk their lives to protect property just love it when the politico in power takes all the credit for stopping the fire. Please don't allow our mayor to do that. There's a republican from New York City who is an embarrassment for taking the credit of what heroic rescue workers and fire fighters did.
>I do need you to answer one question for me.... Who is going to "PUSH YOU OUT OF YOUR HOME,"
>Marty? I haven't seen ANYONE pushed out of their home - NOBODY!
I've already explained this. Just because you don't want to see the dirty business that goes behind $$$$ doesn't mean it isn't there.
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>As far as our school board goes.... someone needs to take control.
>It's OUT OF CONTROL!
Wow, we have a rogue school board out of CONTROL! Amazing! Isn't it amazing that former student's of mine are doctors, lawyers, social workers, politicians, parents and went to universities such as Harvard, UC Berkley and UNM. How could that happen when a rogue, out of control school board runs the APS! Now who is being ridiculous.
The school board members are elected, as they should be. The schools are under the control of the State, not the City. Read the Constitution of New Mexico. The problems with APS are not easily fixed by having a one person take over as dictator. The problems need a community that cares about education and the schools. I fear a dictator more than I fear the problems.
>You probably angry with Marty because you got nailed by a red light
>camera or two and that pisses you off.
I never gotten a ticket due to the red light cameras, in fact it has been a while since I've gotten any sort of ticket. I agree with the red light cameras and I'm sorry Marty is backpedaling on the issue.
>Instead of attacking Marty, why not outline the reasons we should
>VOTE FOR Udall?
You know, I would rather not attack Marty, even if I don't agree with him, but he started attacking Udall the minute Udall entered the race. Udall has always been a gentleman during elections. Marty has not. My major issue is to have a progressive Democratic Senator in the U.S. Senate. Udall's voting shows that he is the person for this Senate Seat. I fear Mayor Martín Chávez can't win, and his record shows me he is not MY candidate for this Senate Seat.
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