Dems suicide pact

[itzamirakul]

Source: NY Daily News 1/2/05
Editorial
www.nydailynews.com

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Teddy Kennedy, blathering away there, we sort of don't mind anymore. the old duck cries out for forbearance, as with a doddering uncle. Howard Dean is another story.

Howard Dean imagines himself to embody the ideals of a Democratic Party many of whose more thoughtful leaders want to tack hard back toward more centrist views. It's difficult to believe the Democrats could possibly be serious about electing Dean the party's national chairman. et it now seems there is good reason to expect that on Feb. 12 they will do exactly that, firmly positioning him as the party's public face, public voice, public bearer of its standard.

Granted, the man proved himself a spectacular fund-raiser, ive him that. He also proved himself to be so to the left of the American mainstream that saner Democrats - graspong that nothing would make Republicans much happier than a Chairman Howard - are mounting every last-ditch Stop Dean effort they can think of.

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And the Democratic Party appears to be determined to snuff itself out.

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This rag of a newspaper PURPORTS itself to report "balanced" news, yet they are forever giving the Democrats advice on how the party should be run - in their opinion, the more centrist, the better.

[Oversea Visitor]

1. Wonder what they say

When in 2006 all the republicans get booted out.

[MADem]

4. Yeah, the piling on seems somehow...what's the word?

COORDINATED.

Am I the only one who feels this way? It's almost as though everyone got the fucking memo to beat up on the Democrats, and they are going after us with a vengeance.

Well, they better watch their fucking sixes. Americans LIKE the underdog. What goes around will come around.

Now, cue that ROCKY music, and let's get to work!!!!!!!

[Oversea Visitor]

11. Do not worry

With the new Immagration Act, they can get cheaper spin artist. Better bottomline for the media company. Plus the tax break for corporation. What a paradise. Now all this reporter just need to figured out is how to join the ownership society. Meanwhile part of their pay tax get channel into Wall Street, and company like Enron will looks like good investment.

[jus_the_facts]

5. wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen......

.....they still have computers to GIVE them exactly what they want and have gotten since 2000...elections are a complete farce...doubt seriously that's gonna change in a years time. :nopity:

[Oversea Visitor]

8. Gee then US really going BANANA

I am still spinning after the SOTU when bush talk about the Immigration Act.

You get the wage we decide on and not the wage you want.

Well that was the basis of opening the border so cheap labour can come in to do the work that Americans do not want to do.

Well let see, lastest figure is 2.4 million in Texas is on food stamp.
Open up the border, 3 million going once, 3.2 million going twice, make it 3.5 million.
So now all this 2.4 million going to invest their food stamp in SS personal account.

[jus_the_facts]

12. easy for some of us to see through their illusions.....

.....shame more can't or refuse to....they've given us the rope to hang ourselves with time and time again....money talks...all the divisive bullshit walks...they're united...we're divided....and the rich and powerful rule as they've always done...the meek get shite upon millennium after millennium...regardless....I've had to embrace these truths to continue to live in this world the way is...because it's the way it has always been....survival of the fittest...and RICHEST. :hi:

[Oversea Visitor]

16. 6 hours later 5 beers and 4 brandy....hic hic

I am frighten of the control of the media. It seems that lots of fund going into buying out media ownership. Are we in the age of the Corporation of governments. It seems that the world are truly insane and views of what is right and wrong has been twisted to represent a view of the desired goal of a few and not the need of many.

[TomClash]

2. Dean is only "so to the left of the American mianstream"

because the "American mainstream" has careened so far to the right.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. I don't think Dean is that far to the left,

or that the mainstream has drifted that far to the right. Come on, Dean wants balanced budgets--the huge deficits created by Bushco aren't conservative fiscal policy but radical fiscal policy. The planned SS scam is another item on Bush's radical agenda. As Bush's policies become more and more insane, I feel that more folks will look to Howard Dean and the Democrats as the sane alternative.

[TomClash]

10. He is for Mort Zuckerman and the NY Daily News

They're Lieberman Democrats

[KarenS]

3. "Live Free or Die !!!"

I want the Dems to take a hard Left ~ be loud & fight tyranny !!

I think that Dean's our Man :)

[saracat]

9. Actually, Dean is too moderate for me! Rated fifth most conservative

governor in the nation by his fellow governors at the time. Dean is a moderate and a fiscal conservative. But he is the best we have right now. But he is no liberal. And that should make the beast happy. I just hope he has turned liberal because so many people want him to be. I am afraid he will revert to his DLC roots. And lest we forget , he was a DLCer( as were most).

[jus_the_facts]

13. thanks for sayin' it for me.....

:hi:

[KarenS]

14. I agree with you on that,,,,,

I am a Kucinich person myself.

But Dean is a great 'first step' and he is not afraid to speak his mind,,,, for some reason the Repugs seem to be afraid of him and that simple fact has caused me to look closer at him.

[nedbal]

19. First steps

gee if all the Dem's had the sense to settle and compromise with out an all out battle we wouldn't have to put up wit bush-Co.

I agree with all your statements. If I thought Kucinich had a chance I would have supported him, but in todays America he does not have a chance.

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I am a Kucinich person myself.

But Dean is a great 'first step' and he is not afraid to speak his mind,,,, for some reason the Re pugs seem to be afraid of him and that simple fact has caused me to look closer at him.

[Racenut20]

7. Be more effective if spell check was used before posting.

[itzamirakul]

15. Right! Thanks for the reminder!

:)

[mdmc]

17. DLC / GOP tripe

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[orpupilofnature57]

18. The man is Dean, but the concept is " PROGRESSIVE" both...

Have a neutralizing effect,the "center" should be a product of asymmetry.