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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:38 AM
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NYC Man Accused of Killing Autistic Son
another victim in Bush world ...

NEW YORK (AP) - A father slashed his 12-year-old autistic son's throat, then left the body in a bathtub, police said Wednesday.

The father, Jose Stable, reported the slaying of his son Ulysses at about 6:30 a.m. in their apartment in the city's Bronx borough, said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. Stable was arrested on second-degree murder and weapons charges.

When police arrived, Stable, 50, "made statements to effect that, 'I have terminated the life of my autistic child,'" Kelly said.

Authorities also recovered two knives, police said.

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http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2006/nov/22/112206663.html
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:41 AM
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1. Bush Administration Knew Childhood Vaccines Cause Autism
Bush Administration Knew Childhood Vaccines Cause Autism
by Evelyn J. Pringle
www.dissidentvoice.org
February 7, 2005


Vaccines are the only drugs that American children are mandated to receive. Although it may be true that state governments mandate vaccines, the decision to mandate a vaccine is based on the recommendations of Federal advisory committees. In the interest of public safety, Congress has a duty to ensure that advisory committee members involved in vaccine policy making are not improperly influenced by conflicts of interest.

In recent years, public trust in the Federal policymaking related to vaccines causing Autism has been broken by the practice of ignoring obvious conflicts of interest. At this point, immediate action by Congress is necessary to restore public confidence in the safety of childhood vaccinations.
Is There A Link Between Childhood Vaccines And Autism?

Is there a connection? I'll let readers judge for themselves.

Mercury is a toxic metal that can cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to traits defining or associated with autism.

Thimerosal is an organic mercury compound. It is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate and has been used since the 1930s as a preservative in many vaccines and pharmaceutical products to prevent bacterial and fungal contamination.

On Feb 9, 2004, the National Autism Association issued a press release that reported on one of the larger studies under review based on the Center for Disease Control's own Vaccine Safety Datalink. The release reported that under independent investigation, CDC's data concludes children are 27-times more likely to develop autism after exposure to three thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs), than those who receive thimerosal-free versions.

Think about it, twenty-seven times more likely to develop autism. Then consider this, our government had this data for years, but deliberately kept it hidden. This conduct was not due to negligence or laziness, it was a deliberate cover-up. All those involved should be criminally charge, prosecuted and punished.

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http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb05/Pringle0207-2.htm
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:44 AM
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2. Beyond The Photo-Op: Bush Budget Leaves Autistic Children Behind


Jason McElwain aka “J-Mac” — the autistic high-school basketball player — gained national attention when he scored 20 points for his varsity team with a flurry of 3-pointers. While President Bush has publicly acknowledged his admiration for the young star, his FY07 budget shows an indifference towards autistic children:

- In his proposed budget for next year, Bush has cut all funding for the National Children’s Study, a project that planned to investigate the causes of autism, asthma, and other serious illnesses.

- The President’s budget will eliminate Medicaid reimbursements for schoolchildren with disabilities, denying them “access to medical services they need to fully participate in school and learn to their greatest abilities.”

- The number of children diagnosed with autism and served by schools under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) increased by more than 500 percent in the last decade, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The President’s FY07 budget, however, will fund IDEA at $6.3 billion below the amount Congress recommended.

Bush’s visit with J-Mac was a great photo-op. But the best way for Bush to show his support is by providing adequate funding for programs to help autistic children.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/15/bush-jmac/
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:47 AM
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3. I been trying to educate my family about this.
Some of them, will not listen. If I was going to have a child now, I would NOT vaccine my child.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:49 AM
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4. back when I was having kids, we could refuse on the grounds of religious
beliefs and I did because of a violent reaction that occurred with my second baby ...who later had scaring on the frontal lobe of his brain that could never be explained.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:13 PM
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7. So you don't mind if they get polio?
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 06:13 PM by proud2Blib
What about pertussis? Both can be fatal.

Do some research. In spite of what you read here and what Bobby Kennedy says, there is no connection between autism and vaccines. They have also removed the ingredient from vaccines that was supposedly causing autism. So if you believed the hype, the danger is no longer present.

The risk of a very serious and sometimes fatal disease is far greater if you don't vaccinate your kids.
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greccogirl Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:34 PM
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15. Yes. Not to mention the risk
it puts others at.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:35 PM
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11. NOW mercury-free vaccines ARE available
Of course, that doesn't seem to matter to knee-jerk anti-vac people (not saying you are one of them, just that there are two extremes to every spectrum)
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:03 PM
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17. And even though mercury is no longer in vaccines, I still see toddlers with autism. n/t
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:26 PM
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5. study: vaccines (including those preserved w/thimerosal) are NOT linked to autism
From the study:

...exposure to ethylmercury in some birth cohorts of our study reached levels as high as those that were attained in the US immunization schedule in the 1990s and were higher than those ever reached in the United Kingdom and Scandinavian populations. Thus, the lack of association between PDD rate and high thimerosal exposure found in our study provides new evidence on the absence of an association between autism/PDD and high exposure levels to ethylmercury that is relevant to the North American public.


And the commentator Orac adds:

The investigators performed a similar analysis with MMR vaccine. Because MMR vaccination coverage was and is high in Canada, this analysis was somewhat more difficult to do. However, to make a long story short, performing similar sorts of analyses, the authors found that PDD rates increased every year at the same rate during a time period when MMR coverage rates declined from 96.1% to 92.4% . If MMR were correlated with PDDs, one would expect that at least the rate of increase of autism diagnoses would decrease. It did not, despite multiple statistical analyses.


http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/07/still_more_evidence_that_vaccines_dont_c_1.php


Please hear me on this: vaccines save lives. They prevent lifelong suffering. Apart from a small number of people who may have a specific medical reason for not receiving a specific vaccine, for most of us the risks of innoculation don't even come close to the risks of remaining unvaccinated for serious diseases. And for people who have certain inherited immune deficiencies, the "herd immunity" of the rest of us -- which universal vaccination can bring about -- is their best hope for not getting sick and dying of a vaccine-preventable disease.
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kermujin Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:34 PM
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6. Getting sick and dying?
Of what? Mumps? Measles?

Gimme a break. And now the US is pushing a chicken pox vaccine, too. Great idea! That way, when the vaccine 'expires' or wears off, somewhere in your 20s, you get to enjoy chicken pox as an adult. Better yet, the lack of exposure to chicken pox for infected and immune folks doesn't allow for the natural 'vaccine' to be boosted, resulting in huge increases of cases of shingles, another boatload of fun.

Eat real food. Feed your children properly and get them outside and active. There's no reason a healthy child should be at risk of dying from measles, mumps or rubella.

If you can't PROVE that the vaccinations have nothing to do with autism, then the vaccines can not be considered safe. Period.

Stop experimenting on children!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:18 PM
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9. Polio is often fatal
I remember kids dying from it and from the measles when I was a kid in the 60s. My sister was nearly blinded from a bad case of the measles. She wears coke bottle thick glasses to this day and she is nearly 50 years old.

As the other poster demonstrated, there is no proven connection between autism and vaccines. None. Zip. Nada.

Besides, the ingredient that was blamed for autism has been removed.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:39 PM
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12. a non-vaccinated child might get the same chickenpox in their twenties
unless exposed to chickenpox on purpose in childhood. It's not like not vaccinating in and of itself builds natural immunity!

A lot of vaccines require boosters. I think if people choose to go the vaccine route, they should be conscientious about getting boosters. But getting vaccines doesn't, by itself, guarantee antibodies. A lot of the childhood diseases, like chickenpox and mumps and rubella, are weathered relatively easily in kids and can be very hard on adult bodies, which is why some parents will actually inentionally expose their kids to, say, mumps, so they can get over them when they are young, and have antibodies. But that, in a sense, is like a natural vaccine. Most parents I know who don't vaccinate, don't go out of their way to expose the kids to the illnesses early on. My mother did not vaccinate me for any of the childhood diseases, and was always very careful to not let me play wth sick kids. I did not end up with any antibodies as a result of no-vaccination, because I was sheltered from having the diseases themselves. As more and more kids are vaccinated, it is less and less likely that avoiding vaccines will help you build up antibodies. Think of it as two different systems of disease management: in one case, virtually everyone gets vaccinated, and builds up weaker antibodies that need boosters that way, or in another case, there are no vaccines, so most people get antibodies through illnesses themselves. If you are one of the few people not vaccinating in a system where vaccines are prevalent, you are unlikely to get the disease (because everyone else is vaccinated) but you are also unlikely to build antibodies. Now, today the no-vaccinating system could probably be managed better than it was in the past, thanks to the advances in medical technology, that make those childhood diseases much "safer" to endure--but, of course, the pracice of vaccination developed as part of the evolution of said medical technology.

In any case, I think not vaccinating is a privileged Western first-world nation stance that creates a "naturalistic" narrative for it. I imagine all the people voicing these sentiments would feel quite differently if they were raising their kids somewhere where contagious disease was rampant, and medical infrastructure was minimal.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:19 PM
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13. "Measles?" you say?
Lord, there is no history.

I was vaccinated against measles when I was about 30 -- out of 100% altruistic motivations.

I had managed to have rubella ("German measles") more than once as a kid, as I understood it. I was a woman with friends of child-bearing age. Perhaps you have no clue what the connection is.

I had myself tested for immunity. I was not immune. I arranged for the vaccination. I answered "yes" when asked whether I was allergic to chickens, ducks, or eggs; the eggs are hard to test for, although I rejected them as a 6-month-old and I don't like them, the feathers I've been tested for. So they didn't give me the vaccine. They suggested rabbit-embryo syrum; well, I knew I was allergic to those beasties.

A little later, I decided to check again. I'm not horrifically allergic. My clinic said they'd do it, and just make me stick around to be observed for any reaction. So I did it.

Here's what you, and probably a lot of others who know no history, need to know.

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/pregnancy/pregcomplications/9527.html
Why do I need to be screened for immunity to rubella?

Your chances of being exposed to rubella are extremely small. But you need to know whether you're immune, because if you came down with this illness during early pregnancy, it could be devastating for your baby. You could have a miscarriage or your baby could end up with multiple birth defects and developmental problems (a condition called congenital rubella syndrome or CRS). So if you weren't screened for rubella immunity before you got pregnant, you'll have this blood test at your first prenatal appointment.

... rubella has become quite rare in the United States, thanks to a very successful vaccination program. In 2004, only nine cases of rubella and no cases of CRS were reported in the United States. (Before the vaccine was developed in 1969, a rubella epidemic in 1964 and 1965 caused 12.5 million cases of the disease and 20,000 cases of CRS in newborns.)

... What should I do if I think I've been exposed to rubella during pregnancy?

Even if you're immune, you should contact your healthcare practitioner and let her know you think you've been exposed. (There's a very small risk of re-infection, although it rarely results in problems for your baby.) Don't show up unannounced at your practitioner's office and risk infecting other pregnant women there. If you need to be seen, they'll make special arrangements so that you aren't sitting in a crowded waiting room.

... If you're found to have rubella in early pregnancy, you'll see a genetic counselor about the risks to your baby and you'll be able to decide whether to terminate the pregnancy. There's no known effective treatment for rubella or any way to prevent it after exposure. ...


http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/babies/Rubella.htm
What about pregnant women and rubella?

* A pregnant woman who catches rubella during the first 5 months of pregnancy can pass the disease on to her baby (or fetus) while it is in the womb. The chances of this happening are very high. In 8 out of 10 cases where a pregnant woman has rubella, the fetus will get rubella before it is born.

* If the fetus gets rubella during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, it will be born with many problems. It may be blind, deaf or have heart damage.

* If the fetus gets rubella between 16 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, it will be born deaf.

* 1 out of 10 babies who are born with rubella will die during the first 12 months of life.

* There is no treatment for rubella in babies. The damage that happens to the fetus will last for the child's whole life.

And that's if the pregnancy doesn't fail. All because some dingbat wouldn't get his/her kids vaccinated.

"Measles?", you say? Grow up, or someone else's baby might not get a chance to.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:14 PM
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8. Thank you
This myth is getting old.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:18 PM
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10. Don't try to talk sense to the conspiracy theorists
They prefer to believe that the evil boogeyman is poisoning their children, and thus they would prefer to see their kids die from 19th century diseases than live in health under the poison sway of the evil boogeyman. You can't talk sense to a fucking imbecile, so you might as well not even try.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:21 PM
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14. Mother Jones: Toxic Tipping Point
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for childhood vaccinations. But it appears that a serious scientific blunder may have been made (and covered up.)

Please note:
  • These blunders were made during the Clinton administration.)
  • This was addressed in November of 2002.



http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/03/02_354.html

Toxic Tipping Point

News: Are the CDC, the FDA, and other health agencies covering up evidence that a mercury preservative in children's vaccines caused a rise in autism?

By Andrea Rock

March/April 2004 Issue

...

The controversy began back in July 1999, when the American Academy of Pediatrics and federal health officials unexpectedly announced that thimerosal would be phased out of children's vaccines—a change, they insisted, that was purely precautionary. "The current levels of thimerosal will not hurt children," said then-AAP president Joel J. Alpert. "Reducing those levels will make safe vaccines even safer."

Prior to the AAP announcement, there had been no public outcry against TCVs. But there had been increasing concern about mercury in fish and other food, so much so that Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) authored a bill requiring the Food and Drug Administration to evaluate mercury levels in all food and drug products—including vaccines. This accounting unearthed a disturbing fact: Throughout the 1990s, as new TCVs were added to the list of a child's required shots, federal health officials had inadvertently nearly tripled the amount of mercury—a potent neurotoxin—being injected into some babies during a critical period for brain development. Astonishingly, as each new vaccine was added to the schedule, no one bothered to total up how many micrograms of mercury children would receive as a result. By 1999, a baby who received all recommended vaccines at her two-month checkup could be injected with up to 62.5 micrograms of mercury—118 times the EPA's limit for daily exposure. (These guidelines are based on methylmercury, while thimerosal contains ethylmercury; the difference regarding human toxicity is thus far unclear.) During the 1990s, when some 40 million children were vaccinated, the number of TCVs given to children nearly tripled, while autism rates inexplicably increased tenfold.

...

Transcripts of CDC meetings show that officials compounded this remarkable lapse in oversight with concerted efforts to minimize both the extent of the problem and any liability their agencies faced. "We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits," noted one CDC adviser, "and I am concerned." Regulators chose not to act aggressively to reduce infants' exposure to thimerosal, and as a result TCVs mandated for infants remained on the U.S. market until November 2002. (The CDC and FDA refused Mother Jones' requests for interviews, as did vaccine makers, citing pending litigation.)

...
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:01 PM
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16. A client of mine had a daughter, and since there is a family history
of autism, she did not vaccinate her daughter.

The daughter is autistic, minus any vaccines. Her sister, who was vaccinated? Typically developing.

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