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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 12:44 AM
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So, why is Cunningham more
better to take on Dickie than Marshall?


I don't see any answers.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:09 AM
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1. National Dems/DLC selected him as their kind of Dem
I don't see any issue or reason that would make those who voted for other candidates favor Cal over Elaine in the runoff. I think he will be lucky to get half of those voters, still losing by about 10 pts. The only way I can see him win the primary would be in a low turnout, but even that would be hard because Elaine is stronger among women, and women are more likely to vote.

In the general election, either Dem will face a challenge with Burr, and I do not see any place where Cal would do better against Burr than would Elaine. Cal's "strengths" won't help much in the general election facing Burr.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:23 AM
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2. He'll be another Heath Schuler
if we elect him.

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MadAnne Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:15 AM
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19. I'm not saying Cunningham is better,
but he's definitely not Heath Shuler. He's pro choice for one thing. He said those very words to me when I met him way back when. There is no way those words would ever pass Shuler's lips.
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:20 AM
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5. GET OUT THE VOTE
PYRAMID TECHNIQUE WORKED IN ALAMANCE COUNTY IN PAST

37 Precincts

Each Captain pledge to get 4 to vote
Those 4 pledge to get 4.
4 X 4 X 4 X 4

Get out votes will win.

will leaders ever tell the middle class how they have been raped by conservatives since 1980

google: clarence swinney + rape of middle class
+ 82 Great things created by Democrats
+ praise clinton
+ wreckonomics
+ democrats create wealth and jobs
+ jobs
+ bush waffles (tell me he was not a loon)
+ bush lies--254

Tell the people
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 11:03 AM
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3. I don't think you'll
get a logical answer.

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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:53 PM
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4. i think he's less better...
but he does have better commercials
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 03:19 PM
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6. Some people might find Cal a bit more photogenic. Other than that,
I go with Elaine. Cal won a district election for a two year seat once; Elaine's been winning statewide elections for Secretary of State for a decade. That's a big difference in both campaign and governing experience. Also, I like Elaine: she can be feisty, she can be funny, she can be down-to-earth no-nonsense gloves-off serious-about-business ...
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:19 PM
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7. Cunningham appeals to the everyday voter.
Name recognition. Political experience. Military experience. Clean background. Good-looking. Handsome family. Young children.
That's enough to satisfy most voters.
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DuncanBenjamin Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 02:08 PM
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8. Everyday Voter
Edited on Sat May-22-10 02:10 PM by DuncanBenjamin
"Cunningham appeals to the everyday voter.
Name recognition. Political experience. Military experience. Clean background. Good-looking. Handsome family. Young children.
That's enough to satisfy most voters."


Very little of this has anything to do with being an effective leader. I am a veteran but being in the military does not translate into being a good leader in the civilian world. Who cares if he has young children? What's wrong with Ms. Marshall's family. They look fine. Her background is clean as well. As for political experience, which is what really matters, she is by far the strongest candidate. If in fact he has higher name recognition it is because he is the choice of the democratic machine who have put their resources behind him. It seems that there is an undercurrent of ageism and sexism surrounding this race. If this is all it takes to satisfy the everyday voter let's hope they stay home.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 10:30 AM
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9. The everyday voter isn't a political junkie.
I'll vote for the candidate most likely to beat Burr and that is Cunningham, IMO.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:57 AM
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11. There is no data to support that
assertion.

Elaine Marshall is known to many Dems in NC.

I will vote for her over a DLCer who owes his seat to the the DSCC.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:19 AM
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13. Both are good candidates but I think only Cunningham
can beat Burr.

Nothing else matters.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:35 AM
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15. BS.
What good would Cunningham do in the senate, only to vote the same way Heath Schuler votes too?

I don't want a Repub lite in office.

If that's what you want, vote Republican and be honest about it, but don't call it Democratic.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:47 AM
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16. Posts like yours run me away from Marshall.
Both are wonderful candidates and I've had a hard time deciding. After reading your nasty post I know that I want NOTHING to do with the Marshall crowd.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 11:59 PM
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10. AFAIK, he's not. He trailed Elaine by 10 points
and he really expects to beat her in a runoff?

He's wasting voters time, taxpayer money, and eating up some good will.

We know alot more about Marshall than we do Cunningham.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:17 PM
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12. why? Because
he's a MAN, of course!

:grr:

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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:21 AM
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14.  I wouldn't vote for someone just because they're female
any more than I would because they are male.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:24 PM
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17. He speaks clearly and intelligently, good grasp of facts and issues
I watched the candidates debate on PBS and was more impressed with his answers and knowledge than I was by Elaine Marshall.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:29 AM
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18. Elaine Marshall: working class at heart (Indy Weekly)
June 02, 2010 Elections

... we offer two predictions. One is that if nominated, Marshall would have a better chance of winning the fall election against Republican Sen. Richard Burr. The second: If elected, Marshall would be the stronger senator.

Neither statement should be read as a slam on Cunningham, who is very bright and has run a respectable, progressive campaign. Indeed, his positions on the issues are remarkably similar to Marshall's. But Marshall has the longer, stronger record of public service to pit against Burr's myopic conservatism. And while Marshall and Cunningham both offer themselves as advocates for working-class Americans—and no doubt about it, the Senate is short of members who give a damn about the working class—we think Marshall comes to that stance from her gut as well as her intellect. Cunningham, by contrast, often sounds a little too rehearsed, a little too calculating or hesitant.

The difference may be as simple as the fact that Marshall, in her bones and in her roots, is working-class. So she's not confused about what the rights of working men and women should be in a world economy dominated by giant corporations and banks. Nor is she in doubt about where the federal government should stand. It should stand, she believes, with the working class for their jobs, and against labor and trade policies that privilege capital at the expense of people and the environment—at home or abroad. No more outsourcing of America's future.

As a lawyer, a state senator and for the last 14 years as secretary of state, Marshall has been a consistent voice and vote for the interests of regular folks and equal rights for all. She was a forceful exponent of women's equality early in her career, and as a legislator she helped enact a series of laws improving women's health care in North Carolina. She has also stood for equal rights for gays and lesbians, and in this campaign came out early and strongly for the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," the anti-gay military policy, and of the federal DOMA, the discriminatory law misnamed the Defense of Marriage Act ...

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/elaine-marshall-working-class-at-heart-reeves-for-13th-district-in-orange-county-its-medenblik-a-tough-call-in-durham-but-its-martin/Content?oid=1457773
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