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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 07:02 PM
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NPR-Strickland Blackwell live debate
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 07:05 PM by slaveplanet
At least I think it was live, right now on Cleveland NPR

Blackwell: Mr Strickland, I knew Roy Rogers and you are no Roy Rogers
(crickets chirp) and as for Duck Run, I am not the one Ducking and running.



Strickland: Mr. Blackwell, I also knew Roy Rogers, and I also knew Ronald Reagan , Mr. Blackwell, you are no Ronald Reagan (lots of polite snickering)
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 07:13 PM
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1. There was also an exchange about
Blackwell's "health care Tax". Strickland was responding too Blackwell's charge that he would be a Taxer, Strickland fired back about Blackwell's hidden taxes, said if it passes it could add $480 a month to some familys' budgets. Families that are already strapped.



Does anyone know more about this "Health Care Tax"?
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:11 PM
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2. I'm not real up to date on it..
but I think the gist might be that Blackwell's answer to helping Ohioans that CANNOT afford health insurance to MANDATE that they buy insurance in an attempt to lower it for all.... it really makes no sense. If you cannot afford a $400-$800 a month policy, how does it help you to mandate that you purchase it like car insurance? I mean, if you can't afford car insurance, you can try to car pool, have one car per family or use public transportation in some areas. what kind of options do you have if you cannot afford health insurance? It is crazy.
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Schmajo Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:54 AM
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5. However, that's part of the Massachusetts plan
The much-touted, bi-partisan MA plan, that begins implementation next year (I think), mandates coverage, which will be accomplished by: requiring employers to provide health care coverage (or pay a tax penalty, which probably is too low); offering "affordable" insurance via state-negotiated coverage (or something like that); and by the state providing coverage to the poor.

Obviously, I am not an expert in the details, but I know MA's implementation is going to be watched closely by other states.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:53 PM
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6. well some points of this sound sensible
such as pooling for state negotiated coverage at a lower cost. It will be interesting to watch what happens in MA - however, call me cynical, but I doubt the Blackwell plan has any bi-partisan input and probably is not comprehensive at all and will just put more hardships on those that are already struggling. My Dad and brother are both self-employed. They cannot afford health insurance for themselves nor their wives right now. To simply mandate coverage would mean that they would lose their homes.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:59 PM
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3. What was this? A kindergarten debate?
Ridiculous
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:02 PM
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4. yep, especially Blackwell
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 10:58 PM by slaveplanet
he came off like he had just dusted off some transcrpts of his middle school debates.

I only caught about 15 minutes of it while driving to the store, It was truly pathetic.

We're in big trouble if Diebold elects this guy

BTW ...PBS is replaying the televised version it right now on channel 25. 11pm EST

wcpo.com also has an on demand replay
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:37 PM
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7. Blackwell has no chance
Strickland is so far ahead right now (17% or better) that a Blackwell win would loudly scream FRAUD. Ohioans simply won't accept it.
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