Ohio loves Hillary Clinton!

[liberalnurse]

My friend Jerid, he manages the Buckeye State Blog.............He did a little research regarding the Ohio Super delegates at the end of January.

Clinton is loved! :loveya:

http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/ohios_super_delegate_invisible_primary

As of January 28th, the Buckeye State Blog predicts Ohio's Super Delegates will break*:

Clinton: 8
Obama: 3
Toss Up: 9

Let me share with you.............the Toss-up votes of yet...............they'll go to Clinton, they just maybe holding out for the fun of it. That is how I know and see it. The only exception, Chairman Redfern, who is a close friend of John Edwards and an extremely savvy politician in his own right....he will really hold out for the power play. I love this guy!

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Ohio's "Super Delegate" Invisible Primary

Submitted by Jerid on Mon, 01/28/2008 - 11:43am.

Obama agrees, we're in a race for delegates at this point. Nearly every other commenter nationwide is saying the same thing too. Folks are talking about the proportional delegate division system, and who gets what, blah blah blah. And in the periphery vision of everyone paying attention to this wild ride is the question of who gets the 796 superdelegates.

Superdelegates of course are Congresscritters, Governors and party leaders. And folks are giving this whole backdoor jostling a name: "The Invisible Primary"

In Ohio we've got 162 delegates up for grabs. Of those, 141 are "pledged," meaning they'll be tied to a candidate in one way or another depending on how March 5th primary goes. But that leaves 21 delegate slots open from the Ohio convention.

Since every delegate vote could have an immense impact on how the nomination process goes, who are these mysterious Ohio delegates and who are they going to vote for? Good question.


Welcome to the Ohio backdoor primary.

Every Ohio Congressman gets a vote at the convention. So where will our Congressional Delegation land? Here's BSB first of many roundups leading up to the March Primary and the convention

I. Ohio Congressional/Gubernatorial Delegate

OH-6: Charlie Wilson
No endorsement yet. BSB prognosis: "Toss Up"


OH-9: Marcy Kaptur
No endorsement yet. Sources suggest Clinton lean. However, she might see similarities between her first Congressional bid and Obama's outside candidacy. BSB Prognosis: "Toss Up"


OH-10: Dennis Kucinich
May vote for self. Will not endorse Clinton. Urged supporters to choose Obama as second choice in Nevada. Toss up between self/Obama. BSB prognosis: "Lean Obama"



OH-11: Stephanie Tubbs Jones
(Vote doesn't count in congressional delegation, instead goes to DNC delegation)

OH-13: Betty Sutton
No endorsement yet. Sources suggest Clinton lean. BSB prognosis: "Lean Clinton"


OH-17: Tim Ryan
Endorsed Dodd early on. No endorsement in contest yet. Lean unknown. BSB prognosis: "toss up"


OH-18: Zack Space
No endorsement. Could potentially be hurt in Congressional race with Clinton at top of ticket. BSB prognosis "Lean Obama"

Senator Sherrod Brown
Sherrod has said repeatedly to the press he will remain neutral in this race. Still, things change. Sherrod's office in the Dirksen Senate building is right next to Hillary's, so they've developed a relationship already in the Senate. Still, the Clinton's past history on trade has to leave a sour taste in Sherrod's mouth. That alone could swing him to the Obama camp. BSB prognosis: "Toss up"


Governor Strickland
Endorsed Clinton in December. BSB prognosis: "CLINTON"


II. 11 Unpledged DNC Ohio Committee Members.
These folks get a vote at the convention too.

Chris Redfern, ODP Chairman
Wouldn't you like to know where the chairman's at. I sure would. Redfern's into the power, and he's being careful not to give any signs of impropriety. Plan on him to hold his support out as long as possible, unless he can get something mighty fine for it. I believe 'Fernsy leans Edwards though. BSB prognosis: "Toss Up"


Rhine McLin, ODP Vice Chair, Dayton Mayor
Team Clinton took care of Rhine back in her early days, going so far as to send Terry McAuliffe in to Dayton in the 90's to catapult her into her Mayoral seat. She knows she owes a debt to the Clintonistas, one in which they'd like paid in full now. The Clinton's have been courting McLin via phone contact since early last year. However, her father, the late State Senator C.J. McLin is one of the fathers of the Ohio Congressional Black Caucus and a monumental figure in Ohio and African American politics. No doubt this history ways on McLin as she struggles between Obama and Clinton. This rating might be the most volatile of all of the Ohio SuperDelegates. BSB prognosis: "Lean Clinton...ever so slightly"

Ron Malone, Formerly of OAPSE
Former Ohio Director of AFSCME United before the big split. AFSCME has been bussing folks all over to support Clintons Ohio campaign. The national AFSCME has also endorsed Clinton. Now at OAPSE, Malone is looking out for Ohio education workers. Clinton has the backing of other unions involved with public schools, expect at the very least Malone to follow suit. Malone's ready to have Bill back. BSB prognosis: "CLINTON"

Bill Burga, Former President Ohio AFL-CIO
Like Ron Malone and the rest of Ohio labor, Burga has strong ties to the Clintonistas having helped carry the state for Bill in '92 and '96. Expect Burga to stay with his friends, unless something big changes. BSB prognosis: "Lean Clinton"

Sonny Nardi, Ohio Teamster "Drive" Campaign
I have little to no information on Nardi's leanings. Those in the know, please help me out here - confidentiality guaranteed. BSB prognosis: "Toss Up"

Mark Mallory, Mayor of Cincinnati
Mayor of the 'Nati. Mallory has been heavily recruited by both Team Clinton and Obama. He's suggested an endorsement is coming soon. BSB sources have suggested Mallory leans Obama. BSB prognosis: "Lean Obama"

Stephanie Tubbs Jones, DNC Delegate and OH-10 Congresswoman
On board with Team Clinton for months serving in a national leadership role. BSB prognosis: "CLINTON"

Pat Moss, Retired President of AFSCME Council 8
As mentioned previously, AFSCME has had a strong presence in supporting Hillary's Ohio campaign already (notably bussing Clinton supporters to the OH-15 pre-primary caucus). Currently I expect Moss to break for Team Clinton. BSB prognosis: "Lean Clinton"

Enid Goubeaux, Darke County Democratic Party Chair
Enid was a Clinton delegate all the way back during the '96 campaign. The ties to the Clinton camp run deep here. Expect this one to stay with the longtime favorite. BSB prognosis: "Lean Clinton"

??????, At-Large Member of the DNC from Ohio
There is an At-Large member of the DNC from Ohio whose identity I have been unable to locate. I'm still waiting for word back on the party on who this might be. When I've identified them, the tallies will be updated. BSB prognosis: "Toss Up"


III. Redfern's Lackeys

Ohio's delegation rules also permit party chair Chris Redern to add-on two unpledged delegates of his choice. Expect these folks to break for whichever candidate Redfern supports. Also, if Redfern remains uncommitted past their May appointment, they could be a good window into who he leans to support.

Redfern Lacker #1
BSB prognosis: "Toss Up"

Redfern Lackey #2
BSB prognosis: "Toss Up"

[geiger]

1. Remember that Obama leads in fundraising

and that "love" is a different thing than what politics is all about.

Sadly, it looks like her campaign is going down in flames. I had hoped for more actual discourse. And now I hear she may be "boycotting" the Ohio debate her camp fought for, tried to malign Obama's character about, and haraguaned over for days? Hardly Presidential....

She's either getting really bad advice, or falling apart at the seams herself. Playing victim is not going to work this time either.

[rodeodance]

2. Please post in gd-p

[liberalnurse]

3. Okay.

Copy/Paste here I go................:woohoo:

[rodeodance]

4. Thanks brave soul:-)

[VolcanoJen]

5. Let's see how Ohio votes. Not so sure Ohioans give that much credence...

... to what superdelegates are thinking. Although I will say I'm glad Todd Portune finally came off the fence in Cincinnati. :-)

Weird to me, libnurse, that you and I are on different sides this time around. :hug: Haven't been to Ohio Forum in awhile. Fascinating to read, and I'll see everyone out there in the trenches!!

[geiger]

6. This is an informative post and I appreciate it. Thanks, and Happy Valentine's Day!

[Kolesar]

7. Sherrod spoke at every antiwar rally in Cleve. It figures that he would not endorse Hillary Clinton

"I don't want to hear from Chelsea"

[mac2]

8. What does Hillary\Obama have to say about stripping the mountians

for coal and destroying the area? Are they enviornmental about this or not?

http://www.ohvec.org/

[Kolesar]

9. I recall that Obama backed away from a pro-coal position..

...after some grassroots pressure that originated on the internet. I was not real happy with his position when he announced. Illinois is a coal state and they have a lot of influence on the Illinois government, of which Barack was a legislator.

You better look into this for yourself, though.

[mac2]

10. Not much help from Illinois since Durbin (D-IL)

supports "clean coal". Clean coal does not exist. Durbin and Emanuel are the reason for Obama in the first place.