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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:33 PM
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Youngstown. A hotbed of HRC support.
Unions?

I keep an eye on Youngstown, my hometown, no matter where I live, and the Mahoning Valley is a serious center of Hillary support. The political talk on the Vindicator newspaper website is massively pro-HRC, and very anti-Obama. With a vengence!!! Horrid posts, including a weekly repeat of the Barack is a muslim, and variants including Omaba is an A-Rab!!! Horrible crap.

On a better note: Youngstown might be getting a change of ownership at one of the AM stations, and the new owners will bring Stephanie Miller, Ed Shultz, Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy and Rachel Maddow to the Valley. More to come...

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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:36 PM
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1. We have the same problem here in Trumbull County
Of course our newspaper is Republican Owned and I'm sure the Plain Dealer is as well.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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2. Trumbull County is the same way, you're right!
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 06:49 PM by Rick Myers
Did you ever listen to WANR from Warren during the 2004 campaign? The local afternoon 'liberal' show?

Also, here's a link to the Vindy forums:

http://forums.vindy.com/

Talk of the Valley and Politics get the bad traffic.

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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:59 PM
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3. I mean where else could you read
totally rightwing editorials not to mention...cartoons from rightwing idiot Mallard Fillmore.

Thanks for link! :hi:
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:28 PM
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4. It's difficult for me to believe
that race doesn't play a big part in that support.

I'm originally from Youngstown and have family and friends there. You wouldn't believe some of the racist comments I've heard from those folks.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:14 PM
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5. Agreed!
There is a pretty clear racial divide between HRC and Obama supporters in the Mahoning Valley.

They seem to live behind The Kolbasi Curtain! The vitriol I've seen from the Valley is the worst kind of hate imaginable.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:25 PM
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6. Don't forget the Perogi Partition, Rick. Yuk Yuk. n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:50 PM
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7. When I moved to Cleveland from the Mahoning Valley, it was a step out of pessimism
I noticed that racist jokes were fading away by the 1980s. I had attributed it to time and the maturing of Ohioans, but it could have been that I moved to a more enlightened part of Ohio. At work and in most associations that I have, no one tells "those kind" of jokes.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:09 PM
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8. You're from the Youngstown area? I didn't know that. n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:47 AM
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9. I'm a fighting Penguin
YSU '83
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:19 AM
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10. Hot Damn! I went to YSU, too.
Although at that time it was called Youngstown COLLEGE. I would have graduated in 1964 but I fell in love instead and got married.

Graduated from Chaney High School. You?
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Hilliard_Dem Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:52 PM
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11. I'm from Youngstown too. :)
My parents still live there. We're all HRC supporters, but racism has nothing to do with it.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:44 PM
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12. Welcome to DU
I'm sure most HRC supporters are NOT racist, but the tone of the conversation on the Vindy message board contain some of vile things, way beyond the 'he's a muslim' email meme...
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