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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:02 AM
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So why hasn't there been any Hackett/DeWine polling?
I know it's a little inappropriate right this moment to be thinking about a senate race during the hurricane, but frankly I need an escape from images of my city under water and dubya's photo ops.

Since Sherrod Brown and Tim Ryan seem to be out, why hasn't there been any polling on Hackett vs. DeWine senate race. Warner vs Allen polling was done months ago and Warner isn't even running and was unlikely to run in the first place. Casey vs Santorum polling has been done, Langenvin (SP?) vs Chafee polling was done. Why haven't we seen anything on Hackett vs. DeWine?
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Blue Dawg Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:53 AM
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1. Its really to early...
...though I must admit at least one of the polling companies might have given it a go. Though I doubt a top rate company like Mason-Dixon would :( , sadly we’d probably have to make do with some of the jokers from Gallup or zogby.

I think its also that Ryan is still in contention, he’s an excellent campaigner and has come under a lot of pressure to run after the NRA all but said they’d endorse him over DeWine, what’s more Hackett seems interested in another run for office but seems unsure about such a high profile race and might well get tabbed by Strickland as the latter’s gubernatorial running mate.

So it is odd, but I think its partly because both Ryan and Hackett are still hedging their bets. I do seem to remember a poll done a short time back with Brown (who’s now out of the race) against DeWine and he lost by a big margin, which wasn’t that surprising, populists like Ryan and Hackett would be likely to do much better and IMHO Ryan would beat DeWine assuming he got the cash he needed.


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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:08 PM
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2. Actually
The Brown-Dewine race was Dewine leading 42-36, which isn't great, but an incumbent only polling at 42% is usually not a good sign.
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Blue Dawg Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:25 PM
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3. Surprising!

Brown would still have been a weak candidate, his voting record would have seen him torn apart by DeWine, but if even a comparatively weak state-wide candidate such as Brown was only four points behind DeWine with the incumbent polling well bellow 45%, that has to be good news.

I’d imagine that both Ryan and Hackett would lead DeWine in polling, though both may have lower name id than Brown did (especially Ryan)… either way both would stand to be leading DeWine, so long as one or the other runs this will be a very competitive race… can’t wait :D
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:05 PM
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4. Brown is a very common name in Ohio politics
We have had a Governor Brown, Browns in the General Assembly, etc. There is even a team named after the Browns!
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Blue Dawg Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:32 AM
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5. That might...
...have at some level played a factor in the Poll then.

In the end I think even a less competative candidate like Brown would have managed 40-43% of the vote against an unpopular incumbent like DeWine.

Make no mistake Brown would have been torn apart by the GOP over a very liberal voting record, but even with the inferances of the "Brown" name i think the poll suggests he'd have still done ok... which is not good news for DeWine and means both Ryan and perhaps Hackett could beat him.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:33 PM
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6. If Brown was the
Candidate he would've tried to make the campaign about CAFTA. Ohio's been hit hard by these bad trade agreements and Dewine voted for it, while Brown pretty much led the fight against it in the House.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:31 AM
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7. Why hasn't Hackett announced?
What's he waiting for?
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:20 AM
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8. Tim Ryan
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Earl from Ohio Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:41 PM
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9. two reasons
1. it's too soon (it would be meaningless)
2. it costs too damn much
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:46 PM
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10. There a diary
On Daily Kos where they have an article from The Hill that said that Schumer and Reid had both contacted Hackett about running and he was going to DC to meet with them soon.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 06:08 AM
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11. I wonder what a good statewide poll costs anyway
Welcome to the message board, Earl :hi:
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Earl from Ohio Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:13 PM
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12. One example
Polling ONE Congressional District with follow-up:

$24,000
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Bradley Minoski Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:25 PM
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13. Sen. Ryan or Sen. Hackett would be bad at all.
Cause they would make strong candidates to run againist homely-looking Mike Dewine.

When i watched the U.S house over the summer i saw Tim Ryan and the speeches he made and it looks like a fighter in my mind and not to mention the plans he has to reform social security. over the summer he must of had 4 or 5 1 hour special order speeches regarding the reform of social security and always by his side is Rep. kendrick meek of florida.

Then there Paul Hackett, well what can although he has the congressional rack againist jean schmidt he ran in a district that usually votes 70% republican and reduced it by 52% that alone shows he could make a difference when running againist Dewine.
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