DeFazio, Hooley, thumbs up

[Robert Oak]

Both of these candidates tried to get social security to illegal immigrants from Mexico rescinded.

Just an FYI and we want to say thank you to both of them...

http://forum.noslaves.com/index.php?showtopic=212&st=0&#entry413

Demos have been notoriously lame on illegal immigration and
this has become a very serious problem in terms of burden
on resources for citizens to national security with unsecured borders...
so who says the left can't listen to common sense?

(It makes no sense to say our social security system will run out
of money for Americans and then turn around and award benefits
to illegal immigrants with less restrictions than what it takes for
an American to qualify for the benefit).

[sandnsea]

1. They PAY IN

Half the reason we have them here is to help pay FICA because the Republicans keep stealing it to pay interest on the debt. They have to meet the same requirements anybody else does to collect. What do you suggest? Let business pay them crap wages and provide no safety protection for 20 or 40 years, let them pay their FICA, then turn them out in the streets when they're all used up? I don't know what you are Robert, but you sure aren't a Dem. You're in that wacky age group 25 - 40, aren't you? Raised on Reaganism and just refuse to learn any better.

[Robert Oak]

2. get a clue

I don't know why you think it's "democratic" to say anything against
illegal immigration and I hate to break the news to you but over
80% of Americans want something done and want something done now.

In terms of justification that illegals are paying FICA...
dream on...so much of illegals is under the table and there
is no "FICA" of "SOCIAL SECURITY" or "MEDICARE" taxes involved.

There are studies after studies showing the drain on the US
economy and resources by illegals and you just don't get it...

Republicans want to lower wages and that's why they want illegals...
big business saves a lot of money...including TAXES...

and Demos want them as political pawns.

Unlike you, one can be a liberal and still the numbers and the writing on the wall on what this is doing to US resources.

[sandnsea]

3. You're fighting the WRONG people

The immigrants aren't the problem, the businesses who hire them are the problem. I think anybody who turns against workers is an ignorant ass being manipulated by the Republicons. If an illegal paid in to SSI, they should be able to collect. That's just common sense. If you want to stop business from using illegals to depress wages, then STOP BUSINESS. Quit blaming the victim for the crimes of the perpetrators. You would have been fighting for the south right? Because as soon as those slaves are free, they're gonna' take the white man's job and depress wages. Sounds about the same. THINK, would ya please?